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#4895 of 9045 Edmunds True Cost to Own = BS
Jan 06, 2004 (5:27 am)
I'm not sure how Edmund's calculates those costs, but I suggest that you ignore them. They were so far off on my 1995 Nissan Maxima and 2002 Honda S2000 as to be laughable. Sorry Edmunds, but you do so many things well, you ought to just drop that info from your site.
What I do suggest is that you get the dealer to give you the maintenance schedule and prices for the recommended service intervals and add it up yourself. Also add in wear and tear items like tires and brakes based upon expected life. Add in extra oil changes, if you prefer. I think you are much better off doing the maintenance math yourself, as it will highlight some unexpected differences. For example, in my considering an Acura MDX vs. Honda Pilot, the average Acura dealer charges 35% MORE for a 30,000 mile service than does my Honda dealership doing exactly the same things to essentially exactly the same vehicle. Over the course of 60k miles, the difference would approach $1,000.
Another example of Edmunds miscalculations on a Honda S2000. They list annual maintenance expenses for the first 5 years (15,000 miles per year) at $411,$592,$939,$855,$1485 for a total of $4,282. The actual maintenance costs I've incurred in 2 years and 16,000 miles is $235, including 2 extra Mobil 1 oil changes. However, I am now in need of 4 new tires at a cost of approximately $800-850. By my estimate, 5 years and 75,000 miles would require approximately $3,000 to $4,000 worth of tires alone. Oops, Edmunds must have forgot high performance tires in their "true cost to own".
P.S. My Nissan Maxima has 148k miles and at least another 10k miles left on its third set (2nd replacement set) of tires at $425+/- per set. Total cost of tire replacements is under $900 in 9+ years and 148k miles. Do that math on the 2004 Acura TL with it's low profile 25-30k life tires. I'm not completely convinced this is prudent for a FWD car that is going to tear up the front tires quickly if driven hard. On a 330i Performance, the rear tires are considerably wider than the fronts and the handling (lateral g's) is way above the Acura for about the same cost in tires. Seventeen and 18" wheels and tires on a FWD car may look cool, but I suspect that a lot of prospective buyers haven't done that math. In my Honda S2000, tires will be at least twice as expensive as all other maintenance costs combined. Fine for a sports car, but the FWD TL isn't.
Jan 06, 2004 (7:40 am)
With the announcment of the accord hybrid, has anyone heard if there will be a TL hybrid too?
Jan 06, 2004 (8:48 am)
I hope not !
Jan 06, 2004 (11:25 am)
There's a hybrid Accord?
#4899 of 9045 colors revisited
Jan 06, 2004 (11:55 am)
Has anyone seen the Redondo Red Pearl? I've seen some pictures that look good on the net. No one has mentioned having one.
#4901 of 9045 DVD-A and 6speed side view mirrors
Jan 06, 2004 (12:44 pm)
Thanks for the tip on the dvd information website about upcoming dvd-a's. I just got the Metallice DVD-A it is great if you like that music. There is a website that has alot of dvd-a's www.dvdplanet.com most groups I never heard of though. Does anyone know if the side view mirrors go down when reversing in a 6speed manual? Thanks
#4902 of 9045 Response on Colors Revisited
Jan 06, 2004 (3:43 pm)
Paulg54 - I own an '04 TL with the Redondo Red Pearl with parchment interior and it looks great. The red does not look orange but is deep and has small sparkles.
#4903 of 9045 True Cost to Own
Jan 06, 2004 (3:44 pm)
I hope you folks will provide your feedback directly to the editors. Posting here may not accomplish that.
The way to do that is to use the "Help" link at the very bottom of this page.
Let us know what happens.
#4904 of 9045 Acura Sets All-Time Sales Record
Jan 06, 2004 (6:41 pm)
For the third straight month, the TL performance luxury sedan was Acura's top-selling model with December sales of 5,853, up 40.2 percent over last year and besting the previous December record of 5,723 set in 2001.