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#31 of 2040
NE1? more than 4 cupholders/console extender? by quark99
Aug 05, 2000 (6:21 pm)
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Does anyone here have more than 4 cupholders (i.e., the door side-pocket 16-20 OZ cupholder feature) or the "console armrest extender" on their Sentra??? I'm running into brick walls at the dealership. The armrest extender was an option on my SE that wasn't included, and it was labeled a "port" option, which means installed by the factory, I guess. The additional cupholder-in-the-door pocket feature is mentioned in both test-drive write-ups available at Edmunds (see link on 1st post on this board) and at MSN CarPoint Test Drive msn.com. I'm wondering if the standard cupholder feature was chopped off the car right before release. I'd like to get it because it's impossible to smoke and drink coffee in the morning at the same time. Both cupholders being used negates the use of the lighter and ashtray.
Not the smartest design, but we smokers are used to taking it in the a$$........so Nissan probably figured a few pissed-off smokers, so what? If anyone can tell me about the armrest extender, I'd also appreciate it.
Thanks-
-quark
#32 of 2040
New GXE Owner soon by ekim1116
Aug 06, 2000 (4:48 am)
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I will be picking up my car this tuesday. I got the blackout. I was very impresssed with the overall package. I got both the convience pkg and the lux pkg. I am paying $14661. I though I got a pretty good deal. I went to this forum just for the heck of it because i though for sure I would buy a Civic or Corolla. Thanks to all of you for making me test drive the Sentra. No comparision between the cars. I also thought the 1.8 engine had all the power I needed though I can understand why everyone loves the SE. I'm looking forward to many miles of trouble free driving!
Believe it or not I'm going from my trusty 88 Chevy pickup to this. No need for the big truck anymore and I'm looking forward to a substantial gas milage increase. Well wish me luck and thanks for all the information. This site is great!
#33 of 2040
Re: New GXE Owner by sentrafan
Aug 06, 2000 (12:42 pm)
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ekim1116,


Congratulations on your new GXE! The Blackout looks awesome, although it will ensure that you spend your idle time washing your car I've found that's not a problem -- I wash mine at least once a week, whether it's dirty or not. The GXE is a great value; the new motor is a significant improvement over the old 1.6 liter, and with all the packages you got your value quotient is through the roof. Remember also to break it in right during the first 1000 miles. At my 4000 mile oil change I think I'm changing to Mobil 1 oil and filter.


Good luck,
Bob
#34 of 2040
ekim1116 by nikecar
Aug 07, 2000 (1:55 am)
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14661? is that out the door before a down? that's a good deal for both packages...
#35 of 2040
XE kinda guy by sfpinoy
Aug 07, 2000 (2:01 am)
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Have been reading all your inputs and it has helped a great deal. Gonna retire the 210K 1987 Sentra Sdn after 13 years of faithful service and I only did the minimum maintenance. Car is a work horse - treated it more like a truck than a car! By the sounds of things I shouldn't have any problems finding 5sp XEs! Thanks for tips about cardirect.com and autobytel.com.
#36 of 2040
PRICE by ekim1116
Aug 07, 2000 (4:38 pm)
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14661 IS BEFORE TAX ETC. OUT THE DOOR IA ABOUT 1K
MORE. I GOT A PRICE QUOTE FROM CARSDIRECT .COM THEN CALLED MY LOCAL DEALER AND ASKED IF HE COULD BEAT IT AND HE DID BY $100 AND ALSO HAD THE COLOR AND PKS. I WANTED IN STOCK. I COULDN'T RESIST. I THINK IT'S A LOT OF CAR FOR THE MONEY.
#37 of 2040
Re: switching to synthetic oil by rbright
Aug 08, 2000 (12:25 pm)
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Quark99,


Good luck with those tires. I'll be going to 205/50s when my OEM tires wear out.


The owners manual does not recommend against synthetic -- why would it? Also, why do your service guys recommend against it? I suspect ignorance on their part is playing a role here, but am curious what their reasons are. Mobil 1 claims that you can use synthetic oil from day one, and several car manufactures do just that. At 4000 miles, I don't anticipate any problems switching over.
#38 of 2040
rbright-Synthetic Oil by quark99
Aug 08, 2000 (2:31 pm)
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I love synthetic oil, but do not use it due the monthly miles I put on my car. The Nissan service mechanics advised against using synthetic. I didn't press them for a reason, since I don't use it. Please, do whatever your information guides you to do. I thought I saw a warning against synthetic in the manual, however, if I'm mistaken, thanks for the correction!
-quark
#39 of 2040
All by mckee4
Aug 08, 2000 (8:43 pm)
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The specs. for the new Sentras may be different
but I've been using synthetic in my 97' GLE for
almost 3 years and in my wife's 95' GXE for about
2 years. Wouldn't use anything else at this point.
The Nissan dealer I go to even sells Castrol
synthetic and reccommends it. Of course more money
for them at oil change. Mobil 1 is even used as
stock/break-in oil in Mercedes/Porsche. Be sure
and check the owner's manual, it may indeed say
something. Maybe the techs. meant not using it
before break-in is complete. I changed over to
to Mobil 1 at 5K miles, after break-in.
#40 of 2040
re: Tires, G20 vs. Sentra, General Performance and Handling by adorable
Aug 08, 2000 (11:11 pm)
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1. Tires.
   Also look at the Bridgestone RE730 tires. They're the next generation replacement for the RE71 tires, and I've driven them both.


   The RE71 is fun, grippy, and cheap but good low-profile tires, but the RE730 ups the RE71 in three respects - 1. better wet grip, 2. stellar treadwear of 300., 3. quieter than the RE71 -- all w/o losing the grip or performance of the RE71 tires.


   I'm very happy with my 205R50/15's on my older 93' Sentra.


   tirerack has user ratings for the RE71 and the Yoko's and they're similar in performance and so forth.


2. The rest of the G20 body is boring, but at least it has an attractive toosh. Can't say much for the new Sentra design, which obviously doesn't strike any love accord with me from any angle.


3. Test drove a third SE w/perf. package and I can say that along with the other two reviews I posted earlier, the 2K Sentra SE just isn't 'tight' enough to be worth it for me to upgrade from my '93.


   I think I've narrowed some of the mushiness down to a few things.
   a. soft suspension. Yep, even with the perf. pack., it's just feels soft and mushy around corners. vague steering and feedback contributes (maybe the non-low profile tires, too).
   b. Higher seating than the '93. As a result, w/o lengthening the wheelbase significanlty over the '93' model, you get sort of a floaty feel that emphasizes the bounciness of the suspension more. side to side squishiness is felt more as well.
   c. It's just not a SE-R! Maybe they'll have a 180HP later next year with improved suspension, but their latest tack to go cheap and sell to the basic means they've taken some steps that reduce the 'fun' of the SE model.


   In any case, it doens't feel as good whipping the SE around traffic or corners as does my '93 on 205R50/15's. Something unsure about the feedback, and I'm not wanting to do 360's by accident on the new SEs.


   As for acceleration, I could fall asleep. The tiny engine really doesn't do justice in this heavier body, and 8.0+ sec. 0-60 times (as tested by the major mags.) really isn't anything to run home about. A V-6 Camry or Accord will easily follow you to the next light w/o huffing much, maybe even beating you (a family car even!) =


   Baby needs a suspension upgrade and NOS/turbo!


   However, I would strongly suggest all buyers get the SE model for the bigger engine and not the wimpy base engine -- you'll need every bit of HP you can get and the wimpy engine will make you want to craw under rocks when merging onto freeways. Don't be dumb and try to save some extra $$ on this point - it isn't worth it at all.


   ----


   Anyways, along with the other notable mistakes I've noted before, that's it for the SE model. Out of the competition and I'll be looking for something faster and more stable at high speeds in my next vroom.vroom. (At least a Toyota Celica or something with a bigger engine...)




   Lacking points noted earlier:
   1. Cupholders still can't hold a double big gulp, and the silly removable insert to switch between big and small cups is silly vs. the all-in-one design of the past two generations of Sentras. Cost cutting here. Just where are you gonna put the insert you've removed for the bigger cups? iN your lap? in the silly popup box in the dash that's too tiny? At least they put some rubber pad in the empty compartment slot under the radio & AC to prevent things from sliding out -- but that's another dumb-fix, too - how about angling the entire slot downwards a bit so that things never slide out even without a pad?
   2. cheap plastic feel to the knobs, esp. air and radio. like they'll break or something. not as smooth as in prior years.
   3. Don't see the dual antennas of the 93' body year for the radio. back to one antenna and poorer reception. cheaper and cheaper...
   4. No trunk light. Eh? how can they -take out- a feature found in my 93' sentra?!? that's two features they've removed!
   5. Stupid migration of the trunk release to the front dash. you spend a few minutes looking down there for it, then realize they've moved it. then spend a couple more sessions later trying to find the trunk release over and over again until you pick it up. Stick the release down there Nissan ! where we 'expect' it to be next to the gas tank. No reason they should have moved this latch at all.
   6. Stage II perf. pckag. that isn't. You will still have to replace the wheels and shocks with better to get away from the floatiness even an import tuner mag said they found with the latest Sentra SE. While upper limit performance may be as good or better, the Corolla has somewhat more feedback in the suspension than the floaty Sentra, IMO.
   7. Dumb change to the remote window operation. Now it is a pad on a stick rather than a stick, making it more difficult to adjust. Copy Nissan, copy!! Look at how Honda did their pad. Harder to adjust and use than in models before.
   8. Two buttons on the cruise, one for cruise on, another for cruise off. Er? What's wrong with simply one button to toggle it on/off? One button inside another too, so you don't know which controlls which until you memorize.
   9. Less useable trunk? Rather than being less tall and wider like the '93', it is not higher, but has a greater tuck in where the tires on both sides are. As a result, I don't believe you can stick in as wide of a board into the trunk as before. Smaller lid means it's tougher to get to items way back there.
  10. Tiny sunroof. Maybe Nissan should look at at least the Honda Civic 93-95 sunroof? That at least is better positioned and lets in sunlight the -right- way. Not way back behind your head like the sentra. (Besides, how can we stick our arms out on corners and wave? =-])
  11. More of an enclosed feel. Not as panoramic as a Civic, not as airy as the older Sentras, and an overall tighter, closed in feel. maybe good for slower, older drivers, but not good if you need to want some space. rear seat room is tiny and forget anybody taller than 5'8" there or you'll be aching over bumps.
  12. vague steering. not like a civic at all, nor my 93'. like you can't tell where the wheels are doing much at all, so that limits high-performance maneuvers. great for slow cruising perhaps, but even then, it's more annoying than good. Maybe this is what happens when a well-designed Japanese car gets redesigned in America? becomes a Buick floater...
  13. Not white, white dials. Titanium is their name and it's an annoying light gray. hard to read in glare and bright daylight at times, harder than a basic white on black dial, and you do wonder why they couldn't make it pure, bright white for the highest possible contrast.
  14. Uninspiring design. Get's lost quickly. Even the honeycomb grille with waterspots looks very old at the dealer lot. Why can't they put some thought into it and make it look better when dirty, like the Civic? (maybe that's why the civic sells better....) The design looks dated, esp. sitting next to the wierd Maximas on the lots.
  15. Outside mirrors don't cover both sides as well as the Civic (eg '95 year) does. The left hand mirror on the 95' civic is esp. good at covering your blind spots, allowing for squeeze traffic here in LA much easier than the Sentra mirrors.


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  Other than that, a decently good buy for the low $15K price of a new SE and the features you get in a car at this level. Just don't expect to smoke any Civic Si's however, or do high speed turn tricks or you'll find yourself in big trouble... And make sure you can live with the silly design mistakes they've put into this year's design (and I'd also say wait for the brand-new 2001 Civic to arrive later this year to compare before buying anything in this range, too).


  d =)

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