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#821 of 3629 Cliffy the Avalon sage
Apr 06, 2001 (9:48 am)
Cliffy et al:
I just purchased a 1997 Avalon XLS from a dealer who was listed on cars.com. I'm by no means of a mechanical bent, but the car SEEMS fine (has a few exterior scratches; had to refill power steering, which was REALLY low). I have two questions:
1) The seller didn't have the keyless remote transmitters--just one key (and a copy at that). By looking up the VIN, I do know that the car has the security/keyless remote system, it is just missing the remote controls themselves. I've been asking around, and it turns out that a dealer charges about $150 per remote + $25 to program them. My question is if I purchase a used remote off of ebay, will a dealer be able to program it to my car (even if it came from a different model year)?
2) I'm an extremely tall fellow. Have you ever heard of a Toyota dealership moving the rails back on the driver's seat to extend the available leg room, or is that only done by custom shops?
#822 of 3629 Help Me Buy My Car
Apr 06, 2001 (9:51 am)
I live in the Atlanta area. I would like to buy a car in the next month. My first choice is an Avalons, but I will consider other cars, especially if they cost less. I would appreciate any assistance any of you can provide in the purchasing process.
Apr 06, 2001 (2:04 pm)
You'll need the remotes for a '95-'99 Avalon. Your dealer can program them very easily. It shouldn't take more than 5 minutes.
Apr 07, 2001 (4:43 pm)
We own a 2001 Avalons XLS with 16 inch tires. The tires are, relative other cars in same class, much more narrow. Has anyone with a 2000 or 2001 put on a wider low profile tires or even larger wheels and wider tires? If so, what size and how was the ride and handling affected?
I see a few 2000 and 2001 Avalons with spoilers. The dealership says they do not offer spoilers as after market add on equipment, so where does one get this great look?
Apr 07, 2001 (4:48 pm)
Pardon the interruption - I want to explain the name change of this discussion.
Since we have moved to our new platform, we no longer have the requirement to stop and restart discussions after the numbers of posts exceed a certain limit. Since this discussion can continue as long as anyone has anything to say about Avalons, there is no longer a need for the "Three" that has been included in the discussion name. Down the road, that could confuse our newer members so I have removed it.
I've altered the name slightly of the original Avalon discussion in the Archives to differentiate it from this active one.
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#826 of 3629 I'll got back to American cars
Apr 08, 2001 (12:41 pm)
I have to agree with Harry in his msg #756. I have a 2001 XLS and I think the car is over rated, over priced and lacks a lot of little things I've taken for granted on the last 5 American cars I've owned. The MPG computer is the most ridiculous thing I've ever seen. It recycles back to zero every time you shut the car off so you never know your true MPG on a tank of gas. The can't see the window and door switches in the dark because they aren't lighted. The front passenger can't open the door by pulling on the door handle and the cruise control looses its memory when you stop for a tollbooth or go below 25 mph. Only two good things I can say about the car is that it is quiet and the drivers window has an express up as well as down feature. Other than that, it can't compare to my Concorde LXI for passenger room, trunk space or gas mileage.
#827 of 3629 Avalon trade in question
Apr 08, 2001 (3:25 pm)
Somebody on another board directed me over here to Cliffy to ask what he thought about what I'm being offered on trade-in for my 98 Avalon XLS, 47,000 miles, every option known to Toyota except 6cd changer, immaculate condition. I'm trying to trade for a Maxima, and they're going with a few hundred over invoice but substantially less than Kbb or Edmunds on the trade in for my Avalon. Both of these sources list trade-in as 17,200, 17,900, and I was hoping for somewhere in between. My Avalon really is exceptionally clean so I was pretty shocked when nobody wants to go much beyond 15,500 or 16,000. This car had an MSRP of 32,500 just 3 years ago, and yea, I know all about the horrors of depreciation, but I guess I wasn't quite ready for this. Am I being unreasonable or are the Nissan dealers or some combination therof? Would like to hear from Cliffy but any advise would be greatly appreciated. Thanks very much.
Apr 09, 2001 (6:46 am)
While I am not a used car manager, I can make some general comments about trade values. Every Internet source is a guide, not a rule book. Used car managers don't look at these sources. They look at auction reports and the "Black Book" which is a wholesale guide that is only available on a subscription basis. Every used car dealer has them.
Having said that, I can also say that KBB is pretty accurate. Unless you have a domestic mini van or a very high mileage import, KBB is rarely off by more than a couple hundred dollars. There are some cars that they miss, but on the whole and specifically on Hondas and Toyotas, they are usually right on the money.
I would suggest shopping your trade around with other Nissan dealers. It may be that Nissan dealers don't have the clintelle to resell your car and that could be affecting its value as well. If you're set on the Maxima and don't want to sell on your own, see what other Nissan dealers will give you.
#829 of 3629 Gotsha (Re: going back to American Cars)
Apr 09, 2001 (11:37 am)
Im sorry you feel that way about the Avalon, being a younger (23yo) owner of a 2001 XL with all the options of an XLS (minus VSC) I feel that the avalon is one of the best values out there. As far as the lit controls for power windows, if you have to take your eyes off the road to find the window switch, I suggest you get roll-up windows. For the passenger door not being able to open on without pressing the unlock button (god forbid you have to unlock the door before opening it, those heathens) it's probably a safety feature for kids who have to sit up front. I traded in my 2000 Chrysler Sebring JXI convertible for the avalon and I think that was the best move ever. Not only did Chrysler have more problems (minor but still annoying) in the first three months of ownership, but the quality of the car sucked. I'll take Japanese over Domestic any day for reliability, value, and quality. You'll need the minor increase in gas mileage of your Concorde for the frequent trips you'll be taking it in to the dealer when it starts breaking down in about, oh let's say, 5 minutes from now......