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#2004 of 3629 Toyota Avalon - Any major quirks
Jan 27, 2003 (5:00 pm)
To any&all -
**My previous note erroneously listed the used Avalon as a 1990, bad typo. It's actually a 1999. Again, any help would be appreciated.**
Came across a 1999 Avalon XLS (55K miles) for $14,000. Ran a carfax report on it - Came back clean. My question is this: Is this a good bargain? Are their any major flaws/problems with Avalon XLS's from this year?
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
#2005 of 3629 Any major quirks
Jan 27, 2003 (5:23 pm)
saw_williams: If you go to Smart Shopper and then Real World Trade-in Values, Terry will tell you exactly what you want to know.
#2006 of 3629 Any major quirks
Jan 29, 2003 (6:18 am)
I bought a 98XLS a few months ago with 39K for 15K. Its in excellent condition. It now has 43K. The thing i am very disapointed in is the noisy suspension. If the road is very smooth, the car is very quiet. A certain type of small bump will make loud suspension banging that sounds like the car is going to fall apart. I have read all the posts and this seems to be a problem in a small percentage of the 98, 99 models. If you are interested in one, i would drive it on a number of different surfaces first. I came out of a 99 Camray and it did not have any of this suspension banging. Other than this, it is a great car. I seldom drive the car because of this racket. It is my sons car. I would consider new struts but i have read in other posts that where they were fixed under waranty that the noise was still there. I don't want to shell out big money and not have the problem fixed. Make sure you get a quiet one before you buy. Mike
Jan 29, 2003 (11:58 am)
I have a 2000 XLS Silver Spruce. Has been a fabulous car.....NOT ONE PROBLEM in 45000 miles. The only complaint I have it that I just replaced the Michelin's. I almost stroked when I got the price from Discount Tire to replace them. I went to my dealer who sold me the same tires for almost $17 per tire cheaper and gave me a "tires for life" guarantee that all Toyota dealer are supposed to be offering now.
Took the opportunity for cheap tires to upgrade the Energy's to V- Rating from H. Really made a difference (tires seem much softer) although I know they will not wear as well and I feel the handling is somewhat improved.
I qualify my handling remarks though by saying the the original Michelin's were pretty worn and were getting hard as rocks so the improvement is most likely exaggerated over those.
#2008 of 3629 Avalon Notes
Jan 29, 2003 (5:20 pm)
My 1999 XL never had the suspension problems noted by others (92k miles). But my driving is almost all at 40 mph or more. Not always on the interstate but with little traffic. The pre-2000 cars DID have occasional problems with the struts. Wind and road noise are generally not a concern in this car. Both can use 87 octane and get about 27 to 30 mpg highway, 19/22 in town. The factory Michelin MXV tires are wonderful on the '03. Great car. Enjoy yours...
#2009 of 3629 Avalon Shopping
Jan 31, 2003 (12:11 am)
Considering the 2003 XLS. I see Edmunds is quoting a price of appx. $650 over invoice. I live in northwest Ind.\ Chicago area. Can someone direct me to a dealer that's offering a great price in my area?
Also how much is dealer ad fee? Any help will be greatly appreciated.
#2010 of 3629 bnitnoj1- Avalon XLS
Jan 31, 2003 (9:32 am)
Toyota Dealer Advertising fee in Chicago Region is $325 per car.
650 over invoice is a very good price on an XLS, you can always find a lower price somewhere, but remember, sometimes it's worth paying a little more to get treated the way you want, now and during the entire ownership experience.
Jan 31, 2003 (3:48 pm)
The car we bought did not come with the remote button. There were many of them for sale at ebay but I found one at a junk yard. The one's on ebay claim it is very simple to program them to your car. Can anyone help with the How to part? Obviously the one we got from the junk yard didn't work on our car.
#2012 of 3629 Avalon Suspension
Feb 01, 2003 (11:53 pm)
For those interested, here is my initial impression of the Tokico HB series Hi-performance struts. They are on my 96 Avvy with OEM springs and 15" wheels.
Everything about them after 400 miles is thrilling. All aspects of driving have been enhanced and the car feels better than when it was new.
From the second I rolled it off the lift, I could tell it would be a firmer ride. Feedback was greatly improved but never harsh. The car is without a doubt more agile and confident. My usual off-ramps are far less intimidating. I am maintaining brisk speed, where braking used to be required-seriously! Speaking of braking, the reduction in nose dive is significant.
Bumps, from small to large, are handled better too. Traction, on the most torn up patches of road, is much better. (This based on the absence of slippage during acceleration, and the lack of ABS kicking in during braking, on the same section of road) On the larger stuff, like formal speed bumps, the car quickly returns to neutral and continues on its path. This type of bump used to alter the path of the entire cabin. Now, most of it is absorbed by the suspension.
Body roll used to be awful, IMO. I really wanted an oversized sway bar to address this. However, the Tokicos have brought this well within control. Since oversize sway bars are not available, I will further address this with "plastics".....
...the polyurethane bushings go on later this week. This should tighten the suspension further. Allowing less movement of parts within parts ie) Control arm "knuckle" joints. All control arm ends and the sway bars will get 'em. This should really reduce any "play" in the suspension. Hope this helps someone. Questions and comments are welcome...nomad
#2013 of 3629 nomad56-struts
Feb 02, 2003 (8:33 am)
Please advise as to the cost of the struts and was this with or without a labor charge. Also, I assume the car then needed a 4-wheel alignment.