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#1426 of 3629 Otis123 Thumps and Rattles
Apr 17, 2002 (4:37 pm)
Your 92 Camry was made in Japan. I would venture that the 92 - 96 Camry is probably the best overall quality Toyota branded car line ever sold in the U.S. A 95 or 96 Camry with under 100K is a great buy for anyone that can find one.
In 1997 Toyota shifted to Camry production in Georgetown (even though there are apparently some 97 Japan-sourced Camry's around).
From my experience with our 2000 Avalon XLS, I think the bumps are a design decision that Toyota made given the suspension they chose. I think the rattles are a by product of designing and sourcing the Avalon from U.S. suppliers. Toyota is unlikely to ever get the same level of quality from their US supply chain as they did in Japan due to differences in work styles, competitive sourcing and our tolerance for crap. It will still be better than the US branded companies, but not what we are used to.
If you want an equivalent to the 92 Camry buy a Lexus - even a good used one, not a new US made Toyota.
Apr 17, 2002 (6:09 pm)
Sorry, but I have owned a 92 and 93 Camry that were both built in America. In fact, we specifically looked for US built vehicles when we bought them new, as there were several advantages...To name just one, the sunvisors were much more sturdy...Our 2000 Camry was built in Japan, and has decent sunvisors...go figure!
#1428 of 3629 /direct/view/.ee9e70b/1410
Apr 18, 2002 (5:45 pm)
Avalon vibration? Oh yes and after Toyota tried 6 times to fix it suddenly the car was within specs. New tires, new rotors, new rims, new hubs, tire re-balancing and front end allignment and still, vibration in the steering wheel at speeds in excess of 64 MPH. After months of pain with Toyota I finally pursued arbitration proceedings against them and won. They now have a 2001 Avalon XLS to sell to someone else. I did not buy a $30,000+ flagship sedan to be jercked around. Toyota you let me down after years of owning several of your cars. Where is your customer service pledge? No more Toyota's for me....ever!
#1429 of 3629 The Trip Computer Functions
Apr 18, 2002 (6:35 pm)
In all the recommended changes for 2003 no one mentioned the aggravation of having the average mileage and speed reset every time the ignition is turned off. The functions are useless and I never use them. My contact with Toyota by email told me there was no retrofit so live with it. The 2002 Camry works right, resets manually.
#1430 of 3629 Re: The Trip Computer Functions
Apr 19, 2002 (10:47 am)
I requested this in post 1361. It's the last item.
Since it works correctly in the '02 Camry, there's a good chance this will be fixed in '03 Avalon. Got my fingers crossed.
#1431 of 3629 Vibration and pulling problems resolved!
Apr 19, 2002 (12:03 pm)
I've also been having vibration and pulling problems on my 2002 Avalon which had Continental TouringContact AS tires. The first Toyota dealer balanced and aligned the wheels twice to no avail. Sears Auto also balanced the wheels twice for me. I took the car to another Toyota dealer and they discovered that there is a Toyota TSB out for the pulling problem, TSB ST005-01 which they applied and it fixed that problem. Dealer tried to balance the wheels yet again, and suggested that there was a problem with the tires (Toyota would not handle the warranty issue directly) and that I should contact Continental. I called Continental customer service 800-847-3349 and they told me that the AS series was new on the Avalon for 2002 and they were still getting "feedback" from customers. They gave me a case number and referred me back to Sears who are a Continental dealer. Sears re-examined the tires and found some defects. They reported their findings to Continental, and Continental replaced all 4 tires with ContiTouringContact CH95's. This fixed the vibrations and the car rides quieter and smoother, and the steering is sharper. Great service from Continental and Sears!!! If you are having problems, call the tire manufacturer.
#1432 of 3629 Avalon vs. Camry
Apr 19, 2002 (2:19 pm)
I am in the market to buy a new sedan and when I compare the Avalon to the Camry I wonder why anyone would buy the Avalon. Any suggestions?
#1433 of 3629 Avalon vs Camry?
Apr 20, 2002 (9:43 am)
Avalon has the more powerful 210hp VVTi V6 vs the 192hp V6 in Camry.
Avalon has much more upscale interior and dashboard.
Avalon has more rear seat legroom.
Camry is better looking.
Camry is a newer design.
Camry is cheaper.
Camry has a very cheap looking interior and dashboard.
#1434 of 3629 Camry vs. Avalon
Apr 20, 2002 (2:11 pm)
I think the Camry interior and dash are great, especially the bluish back-lit gauges (LE and XLE) at night. Almost have a soothing effect. It is not a cheap interior. Perhaps a bit bland, but NOT cheap, and worlds better than the former Camry. In XLE trim, the tasteful restraint of the wood-like trim is very appealing. On the other hand, the Avalon is incredibly gimmicky with its split dash and information center (in the XLS). Perhaps Camry and Avalon owners will agree to disagree.
Other differences between the Camry and Avalon:
Camry has available Side Curtain Airbags
Camry has available Navagation System
With the Camry SE, you have the option of purchasing a reasonably sporty family/near lux sedan... something the Avalon doesn't pretend to offer.
I think the Avalon is a great car, but not so much with the new Camry introduced as its stablemate. I'd wait for a 2003 revision (NOT a redesign, remember, but a freshening). The 18hp boost, IMO doesnt justify a 2 grand price premium over a fully loaded XLE V6 Camry, which has more features and is a newer design. (Comparison btwn fully loaded XLS at about $33,500 MSRP and fully loaded Camry XLE V6 at about $31,500)
#1435 of 3629 Camry Navigational System
Apr 24, 2002 (7:27 am)
I have chosen a Camry over the Avalon because of the Navigation System. Has anyone used this feature and is it consistently helpful? What are problems? When traveling is it usually accurate? Is it easily updated?
Any input would be greatly appreciated.