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Dodge Intrepid, Sedan
#1575 of 3457 2002 Intrepid w/19000 miles
Mar 27, 2003 (4:25 pm)
I would look for one with 10 to 14K miles. If you are shopping at dealerships, nearly all are previous rentals, I dont care what the dealer tells you. I looked at many used 2002's and also subscribed to Carfax and looked up the history of many used Intrepids. In fact, sometimes I called Chryslers 800 Warranty Number, checking on the warranty, and they will tell you if it was registered to a rental company or not. Just give them the VIN. Because Carfax was not completely reliable. But there are some with low miles but you have to look harder. There are many in the high teens to twenties but I would try to find one with less miles. You are not going to pay much more dollars. Also, I would pay no more than $13,000. The dealers pay between $9500 and $10,500 for SE's at auctions like the Chrysler auction in Hatfield, PA. And this is for the low miles Intrepids. As far as reliability, its a chance with a Dodge, and it probably wont be as reliable as imports. But I decided to take a chance, and bought a brand new 2002 leftover.
Mar 28, 2003 (7:05 am)
See my post about about the reliability of our '99 ES. Not perfect, but it also has never let us down in the middle of nowhere. I have been satisfied with the reliability of ours. I have had friends who have had new Hondas and Toyotas let them down, too. The Intrepid has been as reliable as an Acura that I have had, which is a Honda. The Intrepids are great family cars with regard to back seat room and trunk space. I would buy another. I hope I can say that when it has 150,000 miles on it, which will be a few more years.
If you can get the right price and know the history of the car, buy it.
Mar 28, 2003 (7:41 am)
...it sounds decent to me. 19,000 miles really isn't enough to damage the tranny, unless the previous owner was really abusive, or the fluid ran low for some reason or other. Main thing I'd be concerned about is oil changes. If you can verify that they were done around every 3,000 miles, then it should be fine.
I've been hearing that the 2.7 can't tolerate a lot of abuse, such as running low on oil, or overly extended oil change intervals. While that's bad for any engine, some engines can just put up with it better than others. The 2.7, from what I've heard, is built to tighter tolerances than the 3.2/3.5, and since it's smaller it does have to rev faster to move that weight around. As a result, it's going to be working harder, and any kind of sludge buildup is going to be more harmful.
This shouldn't be a problem though, if it's been changed regularly. My '00 2.7 will probably hit 77K miles either tonite or tomorrow, with no engine problems yet.
#1578 of 3457 The problem is....
Mar 28, 2003 (8:38 am)
it is very difficult, if not impossible, to verify the maintenance records for the Intrepids sold at dealerships, since they are all previous rentals. Actually, a significant number of the used ones I looked at had trans fluid leaks at the cooler lines. Some worst that others. The ES I looked at in NY State only had 8700 miles on it and had a bad leak in the cooler lines. The dealer had the car only a few days. In fact, as I was leaving the dealer, the car was in the shop getting the lines replaced. There was trans fluid all over the frame of the car. This is one reason why I did not buy the car. You did not know how many miles it was driven with low fluid since it was a previous rental. I guess the dealer wished I had seen the car the next day but I intentionally did not give him notice before I came. It was probably OK but you never know. I also saw leaks on SE's but not as bad as this particular car. The dealer confirmed that Chrysler was having problems with the cooler lines. Actually, I would probably buy a used ES with the 3.5 motor since it seems to have better reliability that the 2.7 L engine. At least the oil changes dont seem to be as critical.
#1579 of 3457 Valve Noise?
Mar 29, 2003 (4:58 pm)
I have a 02 ES 3.5L and 19K. Lately I've noticed a slight metallic clicking noise (like a loose valve stem or tappet clearance issue) coming from the engine at highway speeds. At low speeds around town it sounds normal. One mechanic told me it was normal for that engine, that they are traditionally loud, but I'm having a hard time buying it. Has anyone else experienced this? I'm gonna visit another dealership later in the week. The oil has been changed every 3k since new and I run 89 octane in it. Any comments would be greatly appreciated. BTW, I love the car.
Mar 31, 2003 (1:42 pm)
I just wanted to say thanks for every ones input on buying the the SE I bought a dodge certified SE 2002 loaded on Saturday Its dark blue. 19,800 miles I got it for $11,800 I think this is a good price what do you think? I really love this car I hope I don't have any problems.
#1581 of 3457 mamablairs 2002 SE
Mar 31, 2003 (3:53 pm)
It looks like you paid a fair price. If the car was certified it must have come with the 80000 powertrain warranty. I was looking at SE's with 12,000 to 15,700 miles for $13,000. But for 13K most were not certified. I ended up buying a new 2002 leftover for 16,800 plus $100 doc. fee. The only difference between my car and yours is mine has anti-lock brakes which was a $600 option. Yours probably does not have this option but it is possible that it does. Do you know? And yours may or may not have aluminum wheels. Most of the used ones I looked at had aluminum wheels. By the way, which state do you live in. I was looking at used SE's in NJ. However, I had to travel to CT to get mine since I was picky about the color and anti lock brakes. Also, if you bought the car at a dealer, was it a previous rental car? Nearly all of them are but some dealers say they are "executive driven" cars which is a bunch of garbage. But so far I am happy with mine but I do expect it to last a long time as my other American cars have. Just make sure you get the oil changed every 3-4K miles as this seems to be imperative with the 2.7 L engine.
#1582 of 3457 Morning Group....A question and updates..
Apr 01, 2003 (5:41 am)
Emale--if you're around you might have some input on this. Anyone else here a routine user of the "Car-Truck.com" site? If so, are you getting an error or "forbidden access" message when you try to view it the past few days? Any feedback would be helpful.
Interesting, helpful and positive dialogue that's been evidenced here is nice to see. Did our "identity changing" detractor get bored? My 2000 Steel Blue ES continues to soldier on--recently completing a round trip of about 1500 miles for a grand total of 56,500.. Unlike some I have had all brake pads changed--with Bendix lifetime replacement pads. Changed my tires at just shy of 40K to Goodyear Allegra's. Many of your know have read the potential transmission "horror story" that I averted when they put the incorrect fluid in despite my warning.
Has anyone else with 50K or more decided to have the timing belt (and other accessory belt) replaced? It falls at 50K in the cycle and the dealer mentioned it--although my private shop did not. It is looking a bit glazed and pitted, squeals near redline, but still holds together.. Probably better to have it replaced now. With regard to oil changes--because of the large number of highway miles--and the fact that I use full synthetic in my 3.2--I go at least 5000 now before changes.. Hope all is well any feedback on car-truck.com welcome.. Be well and peace to us all..
Apr 01, 2003 (7:54 am)
...a week or so ago, I remember a blurb on Car-Truck.com saying that the site was going down indefinitely around the end of the month. They wouldn't specify why, exactly, although I remember them saying something about a new business opportunity, negotiations, or something vague like that.
My 2.7 has a timing chain, whereas the 3.2/3.5 have a timing belt, so I'm not too concerned about the chain. I think the timing belt interval is 105K miles, though. The 3.2 is an interference engine, but the 3.5 is not. Interesting.
As for the accessory belts, mine is at around 77K miles now, and when it was in the shop recently, I had them check it out. Belts, hoses, and coolant all still look fine. I just had new tires put on this past Friday...some Yokohama Avids. I'm due for another tranny service around 90K, so I'll probably have them do the belts/hoses/coolant then, just to be safe...even if they say it still looks good. Depending on how quick I rack up the miles, I might have it done sooner, as I'm not driving nearly as much as I used to. I'm only putting around 1000 miles a month on the car now, and expect that to drop as nicer weather nears, as I tend to get out the convertible. I also have an '85 Chevy pickup and a '79 New Yorker that I'm trying to drive every once in awhile so they don't sit too long, so the 'Trep's mileage may be even lower. Maybe I'll just end up getting the belts/hoses/coolant done on the 'Trep's 4th anniversary, in November, regardless of how many miles are on it!
If your accessory belts are actually looking worn and pitted though, it might be a good idea to have them changed. I've heard that the flat belts they use nowadays tend *not* to show visual damage as readily as the older V-style belts, so if yours is actually showing damage and wear, it might be close to snapping.
#1584 of 3457 Thanks Andre...
Apr 01, 2003 (10:04 am)
Good to hear from you... Hard to believe my Intrepid will also turn 4 in November. Got her just before Thanksgiving in 1999. One of the first Steel Blue 2000's around. Hope all is well with you. Question...you said that the 3.2 is an "interference" engine but the 3.5 is not... Help me out with that??