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#1264 of 3457 A problem with the brakes, ABS sensors or what?
Jun 01, 2002 (9:57 am)
I am trying to find an answer for a problem with my Dodge Intrepid 1997 ES.
It is about the brakes. Sometimes the brakes seem to get stuck in the braking position when pushed too much at a stop. Thus, the front wheels get very very hot even after running at slow speeds and without using the brakes too much or at all.
The car still runs thanks to its powerful engine,
but with a degree of continuos braking, which is obvious when shifting gears (a shake and hesitation is felt) or when releasing the gas pedal at slow speed - the car immediately slows down dramatically- .
It is also noticeable that the fuel consumption goes up, and in general a lot of the power of the car seems lost when running on normal road or highway conditions.
As another conseqeunce, the ride is stiffer. (the
suspension seems rougher, since the wheels are
I sought relief from this situation by changing the calipers and brake pads: no change.
I took the car to a Dodge dealer and they could not find any problems, they said.
Friends suggested it may be problem with the ABS
sensors or the brake central pump.
This blocking of the wheels usually happens after
driving on dirty roads, and funny enough, it may
dissapear after washing the wheels with a strong jet of water, or taking the wheels off and putting them back on.
Could it be that ABS sensors get dirty and send
innapropriate signals to the computer?
It may also happen when my wife drives the car... She is very inexperienced at driving. She may push the brakes too hard unnecessarily at stops, when the brake pedal pushed excesivelly turns soft and goes down to the floor. This is when the brakes seems to get locked in the "on" position.
I wonder if you could help me please to solve this problem. Has anybody found something similar at a Dodge Intrepid ES 1997?
What would be the solution?
Please reply at alp29yahoo.com.
Thank you very much.
Jun 01, 2002 (12:29 pm)
alpx29 - brake problems can be difficult to find .Is the problem on the front or rear? if its the front brakes. You can try removing the fuse or relay for the ABS pump. This will cause the ABS not to work , but normal braking still works. If you then drive the car and it still happens with the ABS pump disconnected , it's not the ABS. If its the back brakes are the emergency brakes on? Could one or both be seized on and causing this problem. Lift the car off the ground and try to spin the rear wheels by hand , they should spin freely. If not they could be seized. It could also be a bad wheel bearing . I am surprised the dealer could not find your problem, maybe try another dealer. Hope this helps.
#1266 of 3457 Emale and others...on New Rams and JD Power
Jun 02, 2002 (11:04 am)
Emale... Had to chuckle when I read your last post. I'm about to become "single" again and thought that's perhaps why I'm considering the truck. Nah...I don't need it.. It's not a mid-life crisis...perhaps it's "post divorce" crisis? One for the social scientists to ponder. My father's new 2002 quad cab is in--the 5.9 and Multispeed auto feel much more spry than the 5.9 in his 99' quad cab. I've noticed that the brakes FEEL as if they are in a completely different league. Their initial stopping power is noticeably stronger than the 4 wheel disc/ABS on my Intrepid ES. Cabin is whisper quiet at speed..
I read with delight that Chrysler's JD Power numbers were higher than VW... Bet we won't here the foamy mouthed Passat dogmatists chatting up that tidbit!
Jun 02, 2002 (2:52 pm)
a mid life crisis vehicle is a VIPER, not a truck! btw, the 45rfe (multispeed) isn't available behind the 5.9l engine, only behind the 3.7l and 4.7l engines. the 5.9l is hooked up to the old 46re tranny, and that tranny only. when the hemi debuts this fall, it'll be available with the newer 5-45rfe which is basically a 45rfe that eeks out another overdrive ratio to give it 5 speeds. the 5-45rfe has been serving duty in the grand cherokee and durango for a year or two.
i'm real interested to see and feel how the hemi performs in these trucks. i've heard great things about the 45rfe tranny too. i don't think i'll trade when the hemi becomes available, but i'm definitely gonna take a test drive!!
keep us informed...
#1268 of 3457 Heads up!
Jun 03, 2002 (12:08 pm)
The Town Hall is about to take on a new look in an effort to make content more easily searchable and accessible.
Have you seen the Letter from the Town Hall Manager on the Town Hall Welcome page? If not, you might want to follow that link to have a look.
And hang on to your seats. Change is never easy - for any of us - but resolving the Search problems we've had will be worth the pain.
#1269 of 3457 Brake Pads/Rotors
Jun 04, 2002 (10:38 am)
Have any of you had brake pads/rotor wear and tear issues ?
At 57,000 miles on my Concorde I have changed my rotors twice and brake pads thrice. The dealer says that it is normal maintenance.
BTW, I do not have a lead foot.
Jun 04, 2002 (11:05 am)
...I'd say something isn't quite right there. I got 39,000 miles out of the first set of pads on my '00 Intrepid. It's pushing the 65,000 mile mark now, and I'm planning on pulling a front wheel off next oil change (at 65K) to see how they're wearing. I'm still on my original rotors though.
My rear brake pads made it to 51,000 miles. Only thing I can think of in your case, is maybe if you're having the dealer or someplace else rotate the tires, they're over-torquing the lug nuts? I know it's real easy to warp them that way. I rotate my own tires and always hand-tighten the lug nuts.
Oh yeah, I should add that I used to deliver pizzas with this car, so by all rights, I should've gone through brakes much faster than you! Unless you're moonlighting as a cabbie or delivery driver or something!
#1271 of 3457 andre1969
Jun 06, 2002 (4:16 am)
You mention that you hand tighten the lug nuts. Any idea on the correct torque for them? Thanks!
Jun 06, 2002 (7:31 am)
...well, I probably should get myself a torque wrench so that I'm doing it right, but I always just took an estimated guess! I'd tighten them to the point that I'd have to start putting a little muscle into it, and then stop. I know that "a little bit of muscle" is hardly a quantifable term...it'd mean something totally different to Ah-nold Schwarzenegger and PeeWee Herman
Sorry I can't be more precise. I haven't lost a tire (or even a lug nut) yet, or warped a rotor, so I must be guessing pretty close!
Something else that might mess up the rotors too, is the order you put the lug nuts on. I was always taught to put one nut on, and then put the nut on that would be the furthest away. With a 5-bolt pattern, you'd actually have a choice of two lugs. Then go to the next lug that's furthest away. Basically, just like drawing a 5-pointed star. This way, you don't put too much stress on one side of the rotor all at once.
#1273 of 3457 Shake Shake Shake!!!
Jun 06, 2002 (10:42 am)
Well, I guess you guys may be right. The wife (her car - 2002 Intrpepid w/2.7L engine) said the car shakes more and now makes a thumping sound at an idle in park or when stopped. I popped the hood and the engine was shaking back and forth (laterally) pretty good. Going in next week to have engine mounts looked at. It runs fine, so maybe that is it.
How major of a repair is it if the engine mounts are bad?