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Audi A6, Sedan
#6778 of 6921 Re: 2004 A6 S-Line brake light replacement [jim198]
Jan 21, 2008 (6:14 pm)
I am not a dealer -- I am, er, a klutz and I have "broken" or bent or messed up, my fair share of stuff. I have found it, generally, less risk and lower cost to do what I do well and let the service depts do what they do.
My thought was, if it is really easy and evidently so, someone might not be asking how to do it. If one of us offers advice and it is subsequently taken and then "something expensive to replace" breaks, well, why take that risk?
In my case, a friend of mine bought a new plasma TV from a big box retailer and felt it was worth $500 bucks to have it set up (plugged in, essentially.)
I would have, myself, set up the TV, the surround sound system and the remotes controlling the whole thing.
I would not even dream of working on my Audi A6 beyond "detailing."
To each his/her own.
If you want help with your home theater system, I'm your guy.
If you want help with your Audi, my advice remains: take it to the dealer and pay a bit more [perhaps] but get peace of mind.
Oh wait -- I can change the license plates without help, but since the dealer will do this, too, (at no charge), I even let them do that.
#6779 of 6921 Re: 2004 A6 S-Line brake light replacement [tacoweasel]
Feb 05, 2008 (9:59 pm)
It really is easy on my 2003, not sure if it is the same as the '04. Open the side compartment and you will see the jack. Remove that. The styrofoam tray lifts out with the jack. Then you can see the rear light assembly. Press the two side black clips and pull the assembly out. The light bulb (one of three) then twists off.
Hope that helps.
#6780 of 6921 Quattro? What is the big deal?
Feb 08, 2008 (6:46 pm)
We live in New England and AWD or better has become a necessity. (Although our parents got along fine with DeSotos and Plymouths with snow tires, a couple of bags of sand in the back and a sense of limits as to when you might go out in a storm and/or what route you would take. Life was also different then. Once you were home from work at 6:00 PM, you usually stayed home and didn't go out at night to Barne & Noble or the mall. ) My understanding is the many AWD systems are outsourced from Haldex or Torsen. They all shut down power to the wheel with no traction and direct it elsewhere. Some use the braking system to do this. Additonally some AWD and 4WD systems also have a posittraction/locking rear end feature.
Having said this, no manufacturer really claims that their AWD system is any better than the other guy's except Audi. (Again, how could they when they are outsourced?). Hence the question: what makes the current generation Quattro better? Is there a real world difference? If we put a E Class MB with Fourmatic, an S80 with AWD, a BMW 5 Series with the Xi option, and an A6 with Quattro on a hockey rink with the same tires would they have identical traction?
#6782 of 6921 Re: Quattro? What is the big deal? [kgary]
Feb 10, 2008 (6:21 am)
Thanks. But a little got lost in the (non) translation.
Specifically, were they identically shod? Were they all AWD ((at least one vehicle--I couldn't tell which-- didn't spin its front wheels as it got terminally stuck)?
Please fill us in.
#6783 of 6921 Re: Quattro? What is the big deal? [blckislandguy]
Feb 10, 2008 (6:41 am)
They were all AWD. As far as I can tell they all started at the same place on the hill. Obviously the Audi went the furthest.
#6784 of 6921 What's the matter with your German
Feb 10, 2008 (4:02 pm)
I'm sorry but your description was inaccurate. Yes, the Audi went the furthest but it didn't stop - it just kept on going;-)
#6785 of 6921 Re: What's the matter with your German [jeqq]
Feb 10, 2008 (5:12 pm)
I stand corrected. As a matter of fact I just saw it drive past my house and it kept going
#6786 of 6921 Again, I'm not looking to constantly correct you but...
Feb 10, 2008 (5:55 pm)
the video took place somewhere in europe, perhaps the Bavarian Alps. Maybe it is I that stands to be corrected. You meant to say your Bavarian ski chalet.
#6787 of 6921 Re: Quattro? What is the big deal? [blckislandguy]
Feb 12, 2008 (3:11 pm)
I can't believe what I am about to write, being the Audi maven (bigot, almost) that I am.
AWD is NOT AWD is NOT AWD, but, from a practical perspective, if you are just talking about daily driving, not going up a hill or driving on a hockey rink, you will find these AWD cars will perform "close enough for jazz."
If you want to know if there are differences, well, there are. Let's take one example, the A6 (let's take the last generation quattro even) vs the S80. The Audi begins with a 50-50 torque split. The Volvo comes in with a 95-5 torque split.
The two cars put down power "at rest" differently -- the Audi puts 50% on the f and r; the Volvo 95% f and 5% rear. Newer Audis have shifted to 40 60 f/r.
BMW's and Mercedes are, likewise rear biased.
TorSen (torque sensing) is the Audi system -- it is said to be able to, from a practical perspective, again, ANTICIPATE slippage. The other systems, although they are instantaneous, are REACTIVE. Slip must occur BEFORE they shift torque from f to r. TorSen shifts torque "in real time" since it is a mechanical system that "binds" without needing the "lag time" required by the other non "real time" systems. We are, however, talking about FRACTIONS of a FRACTION of a second even with the slowest system.
Is the TorSen difference important? Of course you can find as many opinions as there are folks -- and some will say yes and 'splain it, and some will say "negatory" and explain their reasons with equal eloquence and verisimilitude.
Audis have a problem (only one?) -- yes but they're getting better -- uh, the problem is that a new A6 is still heavier in the nose than a 5 series Bimmer (with x drive, to keep the conversation as relevant as possible.)
Yet, some magic engineering algorithm or design feature must be present in an Audi that makes it somehow more capable than its "fat nose" ought to allow.
So, do I, Roseanne Rosanna Danna, think the Audi AWD (TorSen) system is better -- yes. But, I also think the differences are PERHAPS not significant enough to sway your buying decision, if, for instance, you think the S80 or whatever is "better looking," or has cooler features or, for whatever reason, just suits you better.
The uphill drive on the link posted is -- for me -- 'nuff said, but, I already confessed to being an Audi fan so much so that I probably bleed little four-ring corpuscles when cut.
I am, perhaps, even MORE of an AWD proponent than I am a quattro (TorSen) proponent. I consider it a performance and safety feature. And, I can see the point of view of those who will ONLY submit themselves to RWD cars. I just don't see any reason (and I live in Cincinnati) to even consider a 2WD vehicle.
I am drawn, currently, to the upcoming A4 3.2 (B8) and it makes me wonder, why even bother with an A6 (at least until the next update comes along in a couple of years.)
Check it out: Why Bother with an A6? Klikity Klik
Drive it like you live, just drive it in AWD trim.