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Re: Sport seats and Amaretto Leather [tayl0rd] by rjlaero
Aug 23, 2007 (7:19 am)
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Replying to: tayl0rd (Aug 22, 2007 8:15 am)

Part of the differnce is the texture of the leather on A6's. A8's have a smooth texture, and even the upgraded voltera (now called milano on 08 models) has more of a textured pebbly feel to it on A6 models. The only time Audi ever offered amaretto sports seats was on the old S8 if I remember correctly.
 
The sport seats look different for the 08 A6 models and I've yet to see them in person.
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Re: Sport seats and Amaretto Leather [rjlaero] by tayl0rd
Aug 28, 2007 (8:03 am)
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Replying to: rjlaero (Aug 23, 2007 7:19 am)

You could get sport seats in amaretto on the '05 and '06 A6 (4.2). And you can even select it on their website now (has a picture of the sport seats in amaretto and everything.)
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Next A6 Generation/ Facelift? by cred
Sep 09, 2007 (9:28 am)
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I'm considering buying or leasing a 2008 A6 now that S-Line styling is std on the exterior along with a few other interior nice-to-haves (including Sirrus). Since the current generation was introduced in 2005, I don't want to get a 2008 and have it be out-of-date a year or two later. Does anybody know when the next gen A6 will be release and any websites with info/pics of it?? Thanks!
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Re: Next A6 Generation/ Facelift? [cred] by markcincinnati
Sep 11, 2007 (4:10 am)
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Replying to: cred (Sep 09, 2007 9:28 am)

The previous gen, of the A6, had a production run from 1997 through 2004 (8 years.) We are now into year 4 for the current A6.
 
I had hoped for a freshening (got it.) I had hoped for some increases in content/options/features (got that, too.) I assumed the 3.2 would be goosed, turbo charged, replaced (er, re-engineered) to get more HP and torque (apparently we don't get that -- yet) and I had even gone so far as to assume that the rear biased quattro would be announced to replace the 50 50 bias if for no other reason than marketing (missed that one too.)
 
This (current) A6 is the best one yet and until the new A4 comes out next year was/is a showcase for much of the "upcoming" Audi-think about cars (styling, features, engineering) when it came to market in the second half of 2004.
 
My take: it needs about 10% more power at the base (US) model level.
 
In terms of styling and other things that may induce you to buy or hold off, I would say the A6 is now "middle aged." The next new will be the A4, then perhaps the A8, then the A6 as it will, based on history, soldier along quite nicely (power notwithstanding) for another 4 years.
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Re: Next A6 Generation/ Facelift? [markcincinnati] by rjlaero
Sep 11, 2007 (6:43 am)
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Replying to: markcincinnati (Sep 11, 2007 4:10 am)

The 2009 A6 will get a small facelift. Mostly the headlights and small trim appointments from what I hear.
 
The 3.2 will stick around, and the 09 models will get a 10hp bump to 265 hp. The new A4 due next year and the upcoming A5 will have the shared 265hp 3.2 motor.
 
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Re: Next A6 Generation/ Facelift? [rjlaero] by markcincinnati
Sep 11, 2007 (10:39 am)
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Replying to: rjlaero (Sep 11, 2007 6:43 am)

Don't get me wrong -- the 3.2 engine is a very fine piece of engineering and is of "adequate" power.
 
At $54,000 "nicely equipped," it is possible to get a very fine "sheen" (as in machine) with more than adequate power and change left over. Sure you can argue the Audi's interior is the best of the best and many agree with that. The car is safe, competent and an "all around good egg."
 
It needed the Audi mild bi-turbo tune up that historically Audi has done about this time in the development of their car's, and during a given run's lifespan.
 
The 3.2 needs to be 300HP and damn near that much torque AT THIS PRICE POINT.
 
This does not detract from the goodness in the A6, I love mine and I'd have another one in a heartbeat. But the "value" in this [underhood] respect is not high at this point.
 
More's the pity.
 
Drive the CTS AWD DI, drive an Infiniti -- either G or M -- drive so many other cars from all over the world, factor in the price for performance and it seems clear that Audi could "fix this" with two little implellers, about 6 oil squirters, a more robust piston and sodium filled valves and a couple other engineering tweaks they could do in their sleep.
 
Imagine an A6, SLine (now standard), sport suspension, some key option groups and a 300 HP, 295 pound feet (at 1800 RPM) V6 TFSI -- all for $54,000.
 
The last gen A6 ended its life as an SLine with a 265HP turbo with, as I recall, 280 pound feet at sub 2K RPM's) and despite its old tech and funky 5 speed "trip"tronic transmission, was a heck of a lot of fun (more fun?) than the current "adequately powered" 3.2.
 
No wonder the 535xi sells like "hot cakes." Audi doesn't seem as competitive in the horsepressure dept these days.
 
 
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Re: Next A6 Generation/ Facelift? [markcincinnati] by rjlaero
Sep 11, 2007 (2:40 pm)
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Replying to: markcincinnati (Sep 11, 2007 10:39 am)

I agree. At 55 grand loaded, a 255hp 3.2 A6 just isn't enough power. You need 285-300hp to compete in this market place.
 
4 years with the same power just doesn't cut it. I honestly don't think Audi cares much about selling A6's in the US market much anymore.
 
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Re: Next A6 Generation/ Facelift? [rjlaero] by rjlaero
Sep 12, 2007 (11:55 am)
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Replying to: rjlaero (Sep 11, 2007 2:40 pm)

Audi will have to spruce up the A6 soon.
 
The next generation 2009 A4 is growing by a whopping 6.6 inches in the wheelbase to 110.90, up from 104.3. The current A6 is 111.90. A 1 inch bigger car in the wheelbase is not much difference to justify a lot of money. The A6 will still be a couple inches wide and a bigger car, but it'll be hard to spend 55k for a V6 3.2 A6 if you can get a larger A4 3.2 loaded for 8-9k less. We'll have to see how the new 2009 A4 pricing shakes out.
 
I would love to see the LWB A6 here in the states like the asian markets get.
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Re: Next A6 Generation/ Facelift? [rjlaero] by markcincinnati
Sep 12, 2007 (1:32 pm)
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Replying to: rjlaero (Sep 12, 2007 11:55 am)

All of the technical goodies will be in the NEW A4, not even in the new A5. Most of the A6's lux goodies, MOST, not all, will also be offered in the A4 coming in about 12 months.
 
Still only 265 HP, same torque as the current, but in a lighter car with RWD Biased TorSen and Torque Vectoring -- which is everything SH-AWD wanted to be.
 
Better weight distribution and a current gen A6 cockpit in a car that WILL be narrower, but not much, and shorter overall and not much shorter in the WB.
 
What's NOT to love about the new A4? It will have to have some distance between itself and the A6, unless the A6 is SERIOUSLY subvented, discounted or content is added.
 
My eye is wandering back to the Infiniti family (again) and the new CTS AWD DI with all the toys (minus bluetooth -- DAMN!) is also very nice (more opinion after I test one.)
 
If Audi makes me another deal, I will almost certainly stay a customer -- but you know, they just need to goose this car, SLine or no, it needs more grunt.
 
On the other hand, I have been so pleased with mine in every other way, maybe I'll just keep it 'til the wheels turn square.
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Re: Next A6 Generation/ Facelift? [markcincinnati] by rjlaero
Sep 13, 2007 (6:35 am)
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Replying to: markcincinnati (Sep 12, 2007 1:32 pm)

This 09 Silver A4 at the Frankfurt show looks pretty stunning.
 
http://www.motortrend.com/auto_shows/coverage/frankfurt/112_2007_frankfurt_motor- - _show_part_1/2009_audi_a4.html

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