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Re: Use Bimmer 5 Series Cost Less than A6's? [reality2] by markcincinnati
Jun 13, 2007 (5:11 pm)
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Replying to: reality2 (Jun 13, 2007 1:41 pm)

Thank you.
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Re: Use Bimmer 5 Series Cost Less than A6's? [reality2] by cdnpinhead
Jun 14, 2007 (1:58 am)
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Replying to: reality2 (Jun 13, 2007 1:41 pm)

Sadly, old perceptions die hard, even in the face of facts.
 
Hyundai is another example. They're trying to compete with high-end cars, unsuccessfully so far.
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Audi. . . by markcincinnati
Jun 14, 2007 (11:54 am)
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. . .elsewhere (Europe) does well. Often Audi outsells BMW in the homeland.
 
The German cars, depending on who you talk to, all have less than steller reps -- except for their reputations reported "from behind the wheel."
 
My wife has a BMW, her second, I have an Audi, "our" 28th, we have also had 2 Passats and a Jetta, too.
 
Under a variety of circumstances, I would have no problem owning (or leasing) cars from Audi, BMW and VW -- and probably no issues with Mercedes either.
 
On the other hand, I "almost" leased an Infiniti M35x last time, and I do believe I would have also enjoyed that experience.
 
Sometimes I think people are trying to find reasons to talk themselves INTO or OUT OF certain decisions.
 
I could repeat, #29, as an Audi, next time. I wouldn't hesitate.
 
I will not pay more for an A6 Audi (substantially more) than a BMW 535xi or an Infiniti M35x. I would almost certainly be delighted with ANY of them.
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Re: Use Bimmer 5 Series Cost Less than A6's? [cdnpinhead] by reality2
Jun 14, 2007 (7:09 pm)
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Replying to: cdnpinhead (Jun 14, 2007 1:58 am)

True, old perceptions die hard, but the facts are somewhat overwhelming on Audi's presence as a high quality and prestige premium brand globally. Hell, they outsell BMW in two of the world's largest markets - Europe and China. You'd have to be in total denial or a BMW executive (who are also in denial considering some of the moronic statements about Audi they have made lately showing absolutely no class), or just plain ignorant. Also, Hyundai cannot be compared to Audi with over 100 years of premium and motor sport heritage. Hyundai is not even in the same league as Audi, yet alone planet. Audi has always been a premium lux brand.
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Re: Use Bimmer 5 Series Cost Less than A6's? [reality2] by cdnpinhead
Jun 15, 2007 (1:33 am)
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Replying to: reality2 (Jun 14, 2007 7:09 pm)

". . . . Hyundai cannot be compared to Audi . . . ."
 
Well, I certainly agree, in terms of the cars the companies build. My only intent in using the two names anywhere in the same proximity was to try (appparently unsuccessfully) to point out that both suffer from perceptions that have very little to do with fact.
 
Audi is every bit as reliable as any other European brand and within spitting distance of any brand, if we are to believe what we read here.
 
Hyundai does in fact have some pretty impressive build quality & early-ownership reliability data, with only two brands better in one of those categories (can't remember which).
 
Your post certainly illustrates that emotion can run high where cars and brands are involved. Some of that emotion (in others) is why many people wouldn't be caught dead in either an Audi or a Hyundai. To them, Audis will always be unreliable death traps with runaway acceleration & Hyundais will always be rust-ridden trouble-prone cheap crap from Korea.
 
For many of the rest of us, not so much.
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Re: Use Bimmer 5 Series Cost Less than A6's? [cdnpinhead] by markcincinnati
Jun 16, 2007 (2:11 pm)
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Replying to: cdnpinhead (Jun 15, 2007 1:33 am)

Hyundai makes remarkable cars. They are, with some qualifications, leapfrogging the Honda and Toyota main line vehicles -- and have already at this early stage of their existence started being able to be legitimately spoken of in the same sentence with Acura and Lexus.
 
My Audi dealer, coincidentally, owns an Acura, Hyundai AND Infinti dealer franchise. The Acura and Hyundai actually share the same location -- but not the same buildings.
 
When "helping" a friend look at new cars, we did end up testing the new highest zoot AWD Santa Fe and the new RDX.
 
The RDX was "the winner." Until you looked at a nearly $10,000 price premium for it. If you dumbed down Acura or looked at the Honda CR-V, the Hyundai certainly seemed to tell a better story.
 
The new larger CUV from the company with the "bent H" has tested better than the Lexus at least twice recently.
 
Likewise, my 2005 Audi now over 35K miles is tight as new and if they keep screwing them together like this (and you can almost bet they will get better at it), Audi has no worries in the reliability sweepstakes -- especially compared with other Europeans.
 
Who knows Infinities or whatever from Japan MAY be better assembled and of higher quality. Heck, even the new CTS may be a paradigm shift -- but right now, Audi makes durable and reliable cars that can and do compete the world over.
 
I read somewhere in fact, that the Audi and BMW and BUICK cars in China are all looked upon as, more or less, equals and a notch or three above anything from Japan.
 
If you like the "feel behind the wheel" you will not be disappointed by any of the cars from Germany.
 
If you are concerned about them leaving you in the lurch -- well, none of these Germans are on top of CR's highest reliability model list (Mercedes was 36 out of 36 recently, in fact.)
 
If you buy your cars based on these lists, seems to me you will stay away from European cars, pretty much, altogether.
 
Get the car you enjoy driving, like looking at with the features you want -- every mfg produces a klinker from time to time. If in doubt, buy an extended warranty.
 
I'm not YET ready to go to Hyundai -- but based on my driving of the Santa Fe, they certainly could be joining the ranks of near premium and perhaps even premium mfgrs.
 
I would, btw, argue that you WON'T ever be caught dead in an Audi -- they're that safe.
 
I agree, is the point, with cdnpinhead.
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2500 mile report by bluetrane
Jun 23, 2007 (6:16 am)
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I just passed 2500 in my 07 Avant (almost half of it in a family vacation from Cincinnati to Myrtle Beach). My thoughts at this point:
 
1) Love, love, love the car. The ride is smooth and confident - it was such fun driving on those twisty mountain highways in the Appalachians.
 
2) Gas mileage is surprisingly good. The computer read slightly over 30 mpg for the vacation trip. I have not yet calculated mileage manually, but even if the computer is off, this is quite impressive for a 4000+ pound car with a new engine loaded with passengers and luggage.
 
3) The seats are quite comfortable and held up well for the 11 hour drive.
 
4) I was impressed with the navigation system. I had previously owned and MDX and have consistently seen opinions of how inferior Audi's system is to Acura's. I did not find this to be the case. I still find it a bit strange to leave on a trip with no real detailed knowledge of where you are going and have the car guide you in.
 
5) On the down side, the voice command system is not as robust as that in the Acura.
 
6) The little touches in this car are boundless. The convenience lighting, trip computer, control layout, etc. all give the impression of being well thought out. My only control gripe - I wish there was a dashboard indicator that shows you if your headlights are on. I typically leave the lights on "auto" and I can't tell if they are on or off in mildly dim conditions.
 
Overall, I am ecstatic about my new baby. This is the first major purchase I have ever done without a shred of buyer's remorse.
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Re: 2500 mile report [bluetrane] by habu
Jun 23, 2007 (10:34 am)
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Replying to: bluetrane (Jun 23, 2007 6:16 am)

blue,
My 2006 Avant just crossed 16,000 miles and I agree with all you wrote. I now average 23.5 to 24 in town driving without being particularly lightfooted. In addition I have had both my 5,000 mi and 15,000 mi svcs done on long trips. I bought the car in Tacoma, WA and had the first svc done in Knoxville, TN. The 15k svc, done at 12,500 miles near LA in Calif. At both dlrships I was treated very well. In CA I was loaned a new A4. I am already putting some money aside each month so I can keep the car when the warranty runs out and not worry about repairs. Sort of my own extended maint plan. Right now I don't see how I could trade up to a better wagon since I do not think one exists.
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brake pads by harrylyme
Jun 26, 2007 (1:57 pm)
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I have a 2003 A6 with about 63,000 miles. Recently the dashboard brake pad warning light came on intermittently. I had to look it up to decipher the picture. I called the dealership and asked about the standard cost of a brake job and I was quoted a general estimate of just under $800 depending upon the amount of rotor work and other damage. When I balked at the cost my service advisor suggested Just Brakes or another brake specialty repair shop and to avoid other repair shops.
 
When I took the car to Just Brakes I was told my pads are in good shape and no need for repairs yet.
 
Shortly after that time my check engine light came on (I knew it was for the catalytic converter as the light had come on before and the Audi warranty would only cover the repair after a second warning) and the brake pad warning light came on and stayed on. During the repair for the catalytic converter, my service advisor called to recommend a brake job for $787. When I balked at the cost, he recommended just replacing the pads for $386. When I told him about Just Brakes he said my front pads were down to almost 8 mm and that I would start to hear brake noise at 5mm.
 
At what thickness should I buy new brake pads?
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how many miles can i get on an Audi by kennyj1
Jul 26, 2007 (3:41 am)
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How many minels can i get on an Audi A6 before it starts to need costly repairs? I put on a lot of miles and hoping to get 200K before it needs repairs. can anyone tell me.

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