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Audi A6, Sedan
#6328 of 6921 Re: 2006 vs 2007 [rayainsw] - torque [sfcharlie] [rayainsw] [markcincinnati [liferules]
May 31, 2006 (5:55 pm)
You and I are of the adequate is ample crowd, perhaps for the same perhaps for dissimilar reasons -- and I have scoured the web for automotive journalists and there are at least 10 quotes (pertaining to the 3.2) that praise both the refinement AND power of the A6 with the 3.2.
Although the range of accelerative times for the 6 cylinder LPS crowd is up to 1 second, mostly the A6 is able to run with the pack. It rarely wins the hot rod portion of the competitions and comparisons, but it has won several awards.
My head says adequate but my butt still says no problem in either keeping up with or outgunning most of the cars out there.
We all may wish for the S4's accelerative urge -- and probably we could opt to pay for the extra grunt. It is the darndest thing, though, it is just increasingly difficult to "punch it" even in our small city.
I'd be lying if I said I wouldn't like to have the S6 with the V10 -- but the A6 3.2 is, thus far, a joy to drive.
My personal fave Audi remains my 1995 S6 (even more than my A8) -- and the 2003 allroad was a great car with a potent engine and transmission combination, but this is my best Audi and best car, ever.
Please note I do differentiate between my favorite car and what I consider to be the best car. The S6 was, at the time, a rush of power and poise. By today's standards it would certainly not be very impressive. OK, how about this, it is my "sentimental" favorite.
Hey, my buttons would be pushed with the A6 with the 3.0 TDI engine, both quicker and more economical than the 3.2 -- what's NOT to love about that?
#6329 of 6921 Re: 2006 vs 2007 [rayainsw] - torque [sfcharlie] [rayainsw] [markcincinnati [liferules] [markcincinnati]
May 31, 2006 (6:23 pm)
Now after reading this thread you guys are going to make me go out and test drive some other cars (M35x & 530xi). I want to see if my A6 is realy the tortoise of the group. I'll report back soon.
#6330 of 6921 Re: 2006 vs 2007 [rayainsw] - torque [sfcharlie] [rayainsw] [markcincinnati [liferules] [markcincinnati] [jeqq]
May 31, 2006 (7:38 pm)
Just don't test drive the 530xi with the stick shift.
If you drive the other two with the automatics, you will not feel like pulling your head into your shell.
The M35x will -- IMO -- feel the most potent off the line of the three if all three are equipped with the auto trans. The Audi will NOT feel seriously under powered, yet it will not be the hot rod.
I found the 530xi with the step tronic lacking in the aural department -- the Audi made the best sounds.
The BMW, unless it has the 18" wheels will also not be as "tight" as the Audi (assuming it is shod with the 18" wheels.)
The Audi, of the three, is the only one that can be had with a true sport suspension and AWD.
Try an SLine if they have one.
These are, indeed, three very nice automobiles.
Styling probably will be more influential for many people (assuming the deals track.)
Jun 01, 2006 (3:12 am)
The only test I recall comparing the A4 (not A6) 3.2 automatic to other similar automatics was in MT Sept 2005.
0 – 30:
A6 3.2 = 2.3
BMW 330i = 2.1
Infiniti G35 = 2.4
0 – 60:
0 – 100:
My guess is that the A6 would feel less quick. . .
Note that BMW is strongly rumored to be releasing a 335 (3.0L twin turbocharged, 300 HP) version of the 3 Sedan this Fall. Shortly after the (officially announced) 335 Coupe arrives here with this motor.
And the BMW 5 ** MAY ** also receive this motor – in early 2007.
HP \ TQ addict . . .
#6332 of 6921 Re: Numbers 3.2 [rayainsw]
Jun 01, 2006 (4:30 am)
I think we are mostly all in agreement that the A6 3.2 is generally not as quick as other cars that it might typically be compared with -- either by pulling a single review of an A6 3.2 and a single review of an Acura RL and a single review of a BMW 530xi, etc; or by finding that rare comparison report (if there are any that used the 6 cylinder representatives.)
We can also verify numbers from mfgr's web sites and other blogs here there and everywhere on the WWW.
The results of such labors of love of research will generally demonstrate figures similar to the A4 figures you posted. That is, the cars will, from quick, quicker, to quickest be spread somewhere between 0.1 and 1.0 second.
Not to minimize the differences or say "close enough for jazz," the "times" are not very dissimilar at all.
Back to back to back test drives from dead stop to 30 or 60 MPH at full throttle are very difficult for most of us to pull off even at the auto malls that dot the landscapes of our cities.
In the first example to 30MPH, I don't know if I could really feel .1 second with only my trusty backside and visual cues as my guide.
I'd like to think I could feel and see .5 seconds in the second example above -- but please don't hold me to it, sans instrumentation.
The BMW 5 series (in the US) outsells the A6 (and just about all the rest of its class) -- that may be because it can be said to be quicker to speed.
I don't know if someone who can seriously consider a $50K LPS car as their primary street driver, actually does do much stop light racing.
I do know that a lot of us check out the published specs, though.
My marketing spidey sense, as I mentioned before, did tingle when Audi announced the new A6 with a 0-60MPH time of 7.0 -- up against most other similar class cars claims of no more than 6.9 seconds.
Loyal BMW 5 buyers or loyal Lexus GS buyers or even newly loyal Acura RL buyers probably noted these statistics but in the final analysis bought the car they "liked" the most and/or got the best deal on (or better said, best value for their circumstances.)
My first choice was the A6, my second the M35x, when the deal was right for M, I went to it, when Audi met the deal, I went back. I was aware of the accelerative advantage the M35x could claim.
It was minimal, not unimportant, but not of sufficient magnitude to outweigh other factors. Now, had it been 2 full seconds, with similar gas mileage, well -- that's a horse(power) of a different color.
#6334 of 6921 Re: More numbers . . [rayainsw]
Jun 01, 2006 (8:21 pm)
Not to regurgitate, but my only gripe is the extended break in. At 20,000 my car finally feels like it reached its full potential. A year and a half is way too long to wait for good umph.
I'm okay with the fact that my car comes in third.
#6335 of 6921 Re: 2006 vs 2007 [rayainsw] - torque [sfcharlie] [rayainsw] [markcincinnati] [psychdoc]
Jun 02, 2006 (9:45 am)
Completely agree about the primitive nature of the navigation system. It does get you there, but pales in comparison to the Japanese versions. For infrequent use, it is certainly functional, but still disappointing in this segment.
In regard to acceleration/horsepower, I believe Rolls Royce use to describe their cars as "adequate" when referencing performance. I tend to think of the A6 in the same regard...well suited to the driving needs of it's demographic. I'm certainly satisfied, even after switching from a BMW 530i.
#6336 of 6921 Re: "3.2" Liter Non-Existant Acceleration [psychdoc]
Jun 02, 2006 (10:35 am)
THe ES 350 is a great car for the money! Comparative to the GS300 even more so! I'll let Lexus worry about that one. I love the look of the GS and did promise my ex mercedes dealer who now works there to at least try one.
THe ES packs a great deal in that car regarding quiet comfort and a pleasent drive experience.
At 36k it must be considered!
My Audi is in to day for them to improve on the botched break job they said needed done (on their dime) and the botched tire rotation. My allroad eats tires by the way. I rotated and now it groans and vibrates. Break application gives me vibration from the back. My dealer was sold last year and everything the new folks touch is garbage. they forget to do things all the time and must be watched on everything. Former was a dreamlike experience of cust. service and profesionalism. They just could not sell enough cars! Especially after the big buck dealership they constructed! They still have the BMW shop and its like this dealer is begging me to switch over!
Regarding acceleration, the A4 2.0 loaner they gave me is pleanty fast! Very impressive! Ride quality is not like my Allroad and I do like a bit of quiet and comfort but an A4 with Manual tranny and 3.2, er, 3.1998 litre engine might do the trick if the back seat was not so tight!
If IM gonna do tight, the new BMW 330 coupe might be nice.
I wish Audi would do its A5 coupe! Or Q5 crossover!
I don't want to go to the dark side..........