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#6271 of 6921 Re: 2006 vs 2007 [dan339g]
May 04, 2006 (7:36 am)
I believe the power column was avail elsewhere.
I wonder what they were thinking since my 1997 A8 had this, as did my 2000 and 2001 A6's.
Save a little money perhaps?
Yet, I hardly miss it -- I rarely changed the setting even when it was power assisted.
I am at least pleased that my manual wheel can be both tilted and telescoped and am nearly shocked when I note how many cars simply permit tilt.
On the other hand, there is a piece of me that says, "the companies know they will NOT be updating their cars yearly in terms of major changes, so they make incremental changes (improvements one would hope) in year two, three and so on."
The differences between my 2005 and the 2006's on the showroom floor are nearly invisible. The 2007's, however, will have some (largely cosmetic) changes (leather dash) and some new gizmos (rear camera.) Probably all of these changes could have been put into the cars in year one, but at a certain point, it seems that a new car is needed. The mild, incremental content changes in the second, third and fourth years are there -- IMHO -- to demonstrate continuous improvement and content advances that are "visible."
Audi (like the others) often makes dozens or hundreds of changes that are or can be nearly impossible to fully suss.
A backup camera and power articulated wheel probably do very little overall -- but at least they can be easily pointed to -- to differentiate the 2007's from the earlier models of the same (C6) version of a particular model (and model year.)
#6272 of 6921 Couple of weeks to go!!!
May 05, 2006 (9:01 am)
Our new 4.2 Atlas grey/Amaretto will be here soon - can't wait!!
Cold weather pkg
#6273 of 6921 Re: 2006 vs 2007 [wbwynn]
May 07, 2006 (9:20 am)
Well then, that makes your choice easier because I thought I've heard there won't be the 4.2 Avant in the US...
Anyone else know the real answer?
#6274 of 6921 Re: 2006 vs 2007 [rjlaero]
May 22, 2006 (7:00 am)
"The 4.2's for 2007 will get a bump from 335hp to 350hp, and will have FSI. "
Anyone seen an official Torque number for the new 2007 V8?
Wondering if they bumped that as well . . .
#6275 of 6921 M35X versus Audi A6 Quattro
May 22, 2006 (6:30 pm)
I've been slowly narrowing down the field of luxury sport sedans to these two; M35X and A6 Quattro. I'd buy them both if I had no spending limits, but, alas …. How did anyone on this board, who considered both cars, decide on the A6?
Subjective impressions have formed in my mind, based on driving and reading reviews of both cars. The M35X seemed to move off the line a bit quicker. I thought I felt a split-second hesitation with the A6. Sitting in and steering the A6 felt more like what I expected -- "nimble" is a word that reviewers seem to use a lot with regard to A6 and it matches my experience. Perhaps without any basis in fact (maybe someone here can point me to most relevant stats), I expect that M35X to be trouble free and the Audi to require a few trips to the dealer. Infiniti salesperson (completely unbiased said the M35 just requires oil change and tire rotation until 105,000 miles. On the other hand, A6 provides free maintenance up to 50K. My wife and son seem to lean toward M35X, mostly because, as passengers on my test drives, it feels more "luxurious" to them. The tufted leather put me off a little at first but they liked it right off and i got used to it. Edmunds 2005 comparison put both behind BMW, but Audi in second and Infiniti in third. Magazines seem to favor M35.
Thanks, in advance, to anyone who has time and inclination to describe their weighing of these two fine cars against each other before choosing the Audi.
#6276 of 6921 Re: M35X versus Audi A6 Quattro [sfcharlie]
May 23, 2006 (4:46 am)
My #1 and #2 choices were Audi A6 3.2 with all the boxes checked (practically) or the Infiniti M35X with Journey, Technology and rear deck aero.
I wanted the Amaretto or Bourbon leather.
The differences in the cars were subtle, but I liked the Audi for several reasons that primarily have to do with the feeling behind the wheel and a long history with Audi.
The price difference on a lease, however, at the time I ordered the Infiniti favored the Infiniti by ~ $200 a month on a lease that began with a $6. The Audi had full maintenance, but that might be $50 per month (but with 10,000 oil changes, that might be high.)
At the moment, in time -- then, the Audi was the choice for performance, luxury, history, driving experience, etc etc etc. But not a couple hundred a month "better choice."
For me, hands down, apples and apples ( a very similar price, i.e.) the Audi out-did the Infiniti.
When the lease numbers came in three months later on the Audi (after they found out I had purchased an M35X -- or at least placed one on order) they had somehow figured out how to configure the car I wanted in the exact color I wanted, order it and lease it to me for $641/mo 36 months, no upfronts, 45K and whack off the last two lease payments on my 2003 allroad (and no sec dep either.)
The Infiniti almost identically equipped was $677.
The Audi, prior to this had been about $850 -- poof the price drop allowed me to get the car I wanted all along.
Today, my choice would still include these two -- but would be augmented by the inclusion of the 530xi WITH A STICK SHIFT -- which, all things being equal again would very likely get the nod.
With the stick out of the equation, I would probably be back to a finishing order of Audi, BMW and Infiniti.
These cars are converging in terms of the L and P components of LPS. Until there is a substantial difference, I would probably still evaluate the situation in no small part based on the MO/PAY.
I always order my cars and would likely not have to play the "what's on the inventory list" game.
Yet, one final thought: if the BMW dealer has the car in stock that I want and it is a stick shift and it does NOT have black leather, I might well consider it if it is price competitive with the other two.
These three cars "get it" -- the two Germans moreso, today, than the Japanese. Look out though, improvements in the M35X will certainly put even more heat on the German rival's -- especially if the Japanese can do it for a competitive price.
I ended up with:
Cambridge Green Pearl/Amaretto Premium Leather
In-Arm Rest Phone cradle
$53,286 MSRP $0.00 down $641/36/45K Drive off, first month, plate transfer fee.
Wish I had gone the extra $250 for the sport suspension.
#6278 of 6921 Any Japanese vs. Audi
May 23, 2006 (6:23 am)
A long time Audi person put it to me best; he said "driving a japanese car is like driving a luxurious appliance that has no soul". Their vehicles are a dime a dozen, very uninspiring and unremarkable. There is no vehicle like the Audi...really.
#6279 of 6921 Re: Any Japanese vs. Audi [wbwynn]
May 23, 2006 (6:41 am)
I agree with what you have said, EXCEPT, their vehicles are certainly NOT now (not that they ever were) a dime a dozen in this class.
The Lexus is the least involving and the Infiniti is the most (from my point of view.) I wouldn't buy, today, any Lexus product but that is different than thinking they are a dime a dozen. For me they are isolating in a way that seems to start off right and then end up beyond comfy beyond quiet -- too far beyond for my tastes.
But these are serious contenders (especially the Infiniti) and are not in any way a dime a dozen.
There are, increasingly, more NOW than ever (since 1977 anyway) more and more cars that are "like" Audi.
Audi for nearly 25 years was rare, darn near unique -- and they frittered it away and have watched the competition heat up and up and up until the LPS crowd that is often discussed here on Edmunds has become more similar in terms of content and performance leaving the differentiation increasingly up to "style" rather than substance.
Another corner heard from, i.e.
Audi is, having said all the above, on a roll (in the US) -- for it has been sellling smartly for years against its rivals BMW and Mercedes (in Europe.)
BMW comes out with X drive "as if" it had been doing it for 25 years (Audi really has.) Now, Mercedes -- very much like Audi -- offers virtually every product with at least available AWD.
Audi was (that is past tense) different. Now, not so much.
The breed (cars) is improving. Small comfort for Audi to see it is being copied in so many ways.
It all started with the jellybean shaped Taurus (which was derivative of the Audi 5000) -- the march of the copycats has only accelerated.
Whattya gonna do?
Beware of believing there are no vehicles "like the Audi" for the entire market seems to be hell-bent to imitate them in so many ways.
Of course, as usual, this is just my opinion, which is often wrong -- but I am NEVER uncertain.
#6280 of 6921 Re: Any Japanese vs. Audi [markcincinnati]
May 23, 2006 (6:49 am)
Great comments; I have been in a Lexus LS430 for the last 5 years; I am sure the current M35 is an advancement in driving dynamics, but my test drive of an A6 just blew me away. The Lexus is indeed so isolating....nothing wrong with that... It is what it is! BTW, I am going to buy or order an A6 Avant very soon.