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Audi A6, Sedan
#5754 of 6920 Re: 2002 A6 vs 2004 A4 [markcincinnati]
Aug 11, 2005 (6:05 am)
The 4.2 is a nice car, and I really like the agressive body work on the 4.2. But in reality, it's not that much faster than the 2.7T twin turbo. But the sweet sound of the 4.2 can't be beat.
It's a smart idea to get a 4.2 with the 6/100 CPO from Audi. I'd never fly naked with that car and be out of warranty.
Just remember that the gas mileage is going to kill you on that V8 vs your A4, and with premium pushing $3 gallon, it'll cost you at least $100-150 more in gas every month to keep that 4.2 running.
#5755 of 6920 Re: 2002 A6 vs 2004 A4 [rjlaero]
Aug 11, 2005 (2:03 pm)
I actually found my 2.7T thirstier -- but I agree the performance of the 4.2 is only a smidge better -- but the car itself (the A6 4.2) for whatever reason feels soooooo solid.
#5756 of 6920 Re: 2002 A6 vs 2004 A4 [markcincinnati]
Aug 11, 2005 (2:32 pm)
The 2.7 is no fuel miser, either, and I agree it's almost the same as the V8 car.
Going from a 1.8T A4 to either a V8 or 2.7T A6 is going to drain your wallet every month the pump. But if that's not a concern for you, put your foot down on the gas and have fun.
#5757 of 6920 wheels on a new A6
Aug 14, 2005 (11:58 am)
We're ordering a new A6 quattro and we want the least jarring ride. The dealer is recommending 16-inch wheels vs. the 17-inchers that seem to be standard on the 2006s. Does this make sense to you experts out there?
#5758 of 6920 Re: wheels on a new A6 [jonward]
Aug 14, 2005 (3:25 pm)
Yes. Traditionally, the larger the wheel, the more the road feel is conducted to the driver. Bigger tires may emote a more sporty ride, while smaller ones, often are smoother in drive but less "feel" for the road. Be sure to get regular and not "sport" suspension.
You'll love the A6, I bet, as I really do.
#5759 of 6920 Re: wheels on a new A6 [jonward]
Aug 15, 2005 (6:06 am)
You can't get 16's on the 3.2 Quattro anymore. There is a new 17 inch 16 spoke pattern that are the base wheels for quattros this year, and the same 18 inchers are available as an option. The new CVT model for 2006 will have the 16 inch wheel pattern.
The 17's give a hint of a better ride, but it's not that big a difference over the 18's. Your sitting on a 40 series profile tire instead of a 45 on the 17 inch wheel. The biggest difference is the sport suspension, and it will make the car have a lot harsher ride if you go that way.
I think the 18 inchers with the regular suspension give the best compromise between looks and ride quality.
#5760 of 6920 Re: wheels on a new A6 [jonward]
Aug 15, 2005 (7:03 am)
"Jarring" is an interesting term. Audi suspensions are typically (even the non sport versions) "firm," "controlled," "NOT floaty."
Folks used to the "boulevard ride" of some older cars may decry the lack of virtual isolation from the road. This is NOT a criticism either of you or such cars -- to each his/her own.
Having said that, Audis typically ride firm to very firm. Some say "stiff," although that is more appropriate for a description of the chassis. Oddly, the stiffer the chassis, the easier it is for the manufacturer to make a car simultaneously handle better AND ride better.
The A6 is a fine example of this.
The suspension and chassis of the A6 have conspired to produce a car that handles well (especially for its size and comfort.) The differences in the ride between the 17 and 18 inch wheels are minimal. The 18" wheels and A/S tires (this is a legitmate option from Audi) will give you good: handling/performance, looks and ride/comfort. The 16" wheels, if you can find one in country so equipped will be under-tired and the ride differences are not that much different. These tires/wheels no longer are an option anyway (I wonder why????)
If you are really into a sofa-like ride, perhaps of the cars that we discuss here at Edmunds (over on the LPS board), the Lexus might lean more in that direction.
To each his/her own, but, my ONLY regret at this point is NOT getting the sport suspension -- but I like less body roll/lean perhaps than you.
Bottom line, this A6 is the most comfortable one yet to prance out of Ingolstadt, go for the 18" wheel/tires you will not regret it.
#5761 of 6920 Un related to topic buit wanted to say a BIG THX to Mark
Aug 16, 2005 (10:53 am)
a while back I had asked for and gotten a wealth of info on the outgoing allroad.
Mark provided a lot of really good insight on this car.
Last weekend I bought a 2005 Atlas Grey 2.7T Tip( I know not a 6 speed...had my reasons) and I have to say this is one FUN wagon to drive. Yes the tip lag is there in "D" but in "S" I do not notice it at ALL. I also found that if I depress the gas pedal before I start the car all the way that the lag is almost gone in "D" as well. I was able to get the car at a little below invoice and the buying experience was top notch from Sunsetimports here in Portland, Oregon.
I have ordered a set of H-sports which should be here Wed and installed Thursday.
I think I will stop the mods at the sway bars so as not to mess with the warranty!
I got it loaded except for the Nav+ which for $1800 didn't seem worth it to me. I drive about 10-12K/year in a city I have lived in for 16 years. I know where I am going 99.9% of the time. If I used the car for work I would have opted for it,but 2K will buy ALOT of premium gas and lift tickets to the mountain this winter!!!
Thanks again, Mark...I am looking forward to many years of Audi ownership FYI, I did not lease...I paid cash and plan on driving the car 6 years
#5762 of 6920 Re: Un related to topic buit wanted to say a BIG THX to Mark [jonnyz1245]
Aug 16, 2005 (6:21 pm)
You're my kinda guy. Pay cash and drive it for 6+ years.
That's exactly what I'm in the process of doing with my current vehicle. If the Audi long-term reliability reputation were better, I might be doing it today in a 2.7 A6, or if they'd bring the diesels to the U.S. . . However, I'm only a bit over five years into my current vehicle and expect/hope to get 2-3 more years out of it.
Point being. . .keep us posted. If you drive less than 15K miles/year, you have the ability to be covered by a warranty the whole time. I generally blow through the mileage limits, so actually require a vehicle that doesn't break.
Love Audis. Hate trips to the dealer, even if they're "under warranty." My time is worth something -- quite a bit more as I age.
#5763 of 6920 Just keep it in warranty. . .
Aug 16, 2005 (7:54 pm)
. . .for 6 years or 100,000 miles.
And, glad to have helped.
And, to each his/her own on the auto vs stick.
You must know by now that I also have a tiptronic in my new A6.
My allroad is missed, you will certainly enjoy yours.
Someday, someone will explain why paying cash for something that depreciates as rapidly as a car will make sense.