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#4 of 6896 Yup! by timcar Jul 18, 2000 (1:28 pm)
Yup!
#5 of 6896 Some answers on Porsche/VW/Audi by quattro_pearl Jul 18, 2000 (5:36 pm)
Porsche made VW, like Toyota made Lexus, which later bought Audi/Auto Union. For a more detailed insight, the www.audiworld.com web site has a special story on how it all began. It's their top story. It's quite long, but worth it. Audi- Auto Union was bought by MB before VW.
#6 of 6896 Color Puzzle? by timcar Jul 18, 2000 (5:50 pm)
The Kelly Blue book site lists available interior/exterior color combinations. Exterior color Pearl (D4) is shown as being available with the Vanilla/Marine interior. Is this something new for 2001? I believe a number of posters have the Pearl with Vanilla/Onyx, but Vanilla/Marine wasn't available. Something new? Or simply a mistake?
#7 of 6896 VW history. by timcar Jul 18, 2000 (7:09 pm)
Jason, I'm trying to find the information in the AudiWorld story you refer to. All I was able to find is where it says that F. Porsche, the man, had DSU make the prototype for the Beetle. I don't think the Porsche company came into existence until after WWII, as did the VW company. I remember F. Porsche going off on his own to build cars in the early '50's, but I don't know anything about the company Porsche starting or owning VW. As to the analogy of Toyota and Lexus, Lexus, until recently, was just a U.S. luxury brand name for the same cars that were Toyotas in Japan. (I guess Toyota was smart enough to know they didn't want to try to $45k cars through Toyota dealerships.) They're not separate car companies at all.
#8 of 6896 Enough Lexus already by mosi1 Jul 18, 2000 (7:36 pm)
This is an Audi A6 board after all. Anyway, has anyone ever heard of the Landcruiser? It lists for about $50,000, not a whole lot less than the Lexus varient, the LX470. You're right about Toyota and truely expensive vehicles, they just don't have the same focus as Lexus dealers. That's one of the reasons we traded our Landcruiser a couple of years ago.
#9 of 6896 A6 2.7T by txa6 Jul 19, 2000 (12:43 am)
First time poster to this board, but I read it all before purchasing my silver/tungston/sport 2.7T several months ago--thanks for the great info--the car is fantastic! Love the car, don't have any of the minor issues a few others have mentioned, but there is one annoying phenomenon I'd like some feedback/advice on (haven't seen others mention it): when I'm in slow-moving, bumper-to-bumper traffic (every night on the way home!), and the car is decellerating in a coast, there is a noticible "downshift kick" at around 20mph. I'm not sure "downshift" is even the right word, since the car's coasting, and I can't see any "jiggle" in the rpm needle to accompany this pronounced kick (kind of a reverse hesitation)--which feels like someone lightly tapped the brakes. What is this? Something to do with the turbo? I'm about due to take the car in for its first maintenance, and I'd like to describe this with a little better insight (or even some speculation) from some of you pros. Thanks in advance!
#10 of 6896 Sounds to me that the tranny is simply downshifting by bad10 Jul 19, 2000 (3:40 am)
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#11 of 6896 Porsche doesn't own VW, VW doesn't own Porsche by bollinger Jul 19, 2000 (7:47 am)
Or more correctly, VAG (Volkswagen Audi Group). I looked into this. F. Piech, the head of VAG is a member of the Porsche family and thus the companies are very tied together. There is probably a very small VAG investment in Porsche with an option to buy the rest in case of distress, simply to ensure Porsche doesn't get bought by someone else (say Ford) without VAG getting a crack at them. So they are independent, although they do work together frequently. Most notably lately with the Audi Quattro (first one), Porsche 924, Tiptronic tranny, and now the W-engines. I'm sure there is a whole lot more stuff I missed too.
#12 of 6896 Porsche and VW, etc. by tubey Jul 19, 2000 (2:43 pm)
You're right, Steve. In fact, I do believe that the 914, 924, and 944 were all built by Audi for Porsche at Neckarsulm. However, since quite a few folks regard that threesome as Porsche's nadir Audi probably doesn't want to brag about it.
#13 of 6896 Porsche and VW by p928gt Jul 19, 2000 (8:50 pm)
Ferdinand Porsche, the father, had 2 children: Ferry and Louise. The father worked on many auto designs for many companies before forming his own design firm. Ferry, his son, went on to start building sports cars in the family name in the late 1940's, while trying to get his father out of a French prison ("war crimes" due to his design of the Panzer tank among other things). The father passed away in 1951. Ferry, the son passed away in the spring or 1998, the 50th anniversary of the Porsche Comapny. The daughter married a Dr. Peich. A son of theirs worked for Porsche then on to Audi. Eventually, he came to headup Volkswagen, where he is today. I believe that VW owns Audi. However, Porsche is an independent firm. In the past Porsche has joined with VW and Audi to import and sell their vehicles in the U.S. During the Porsche 928 development, an Audi was used as a test mule, but the 928 was always going to be a Porsche.

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