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#1623 of 6920 1599 whats a better car, A6, or jag x-type 3.0?
by minos
Aug 11, 2001 (7:48 pm)
bmms8; I highly recommend the A6. The Sept. Issues of Motor Trend and Car & Driver have a nice review of the sport sedans re: A6 4.2L. There is also a short take on the Acura 3.5RL in Car & Driver (saw your post on the Lexus GS posts). I will be returning my 1998 GS 300 in this week in place of a 2001 Audi A6 4.2L sedan with premium and sport package. Definitely a step up from the Lexus GS with respect to ride and ergonomics. I have enjoyed the GS, have had no problems in 3 years, but the A6 is definitely an improvement. I don't think the X-type is in the same car class.
Aug 12, 2001 (12:09 pm)
I would buy the '99 ('98s were very trouble prone, I have one!) and take the $5000 savings to the Audi service department.
Tell them that you want the car to be young again. It will probably cost much less than $5k.
Also, replace the foot pedal pads, floor mats, etc. and have it detailed thoroughly. I think it's a no-brainer. Good luck!
Aug 12, 2001 (12:43 pm)
My C&D September 2001 came yesterday, and the article about the BMW 540 vs the Audi 4.2 (and severl others) was very interesting. When has it been written that a 2000 version of a car (with 20,000 miles on it) is tested against a 2001 version? I thought this was only done when one car was at the end of the model year and the other one had an early new model release. The Audi tested was a 2000 (Audi probably has some 2002's here in North America) -- so the end of model turnover was hardly a factor for AoA.
I read the article almost in disbelief -- the scoring according to the article was "so close" (between the 540 and the A6 4.2) that the author made a comment that if the scores were recorded again that the A6 could have been #1 and the BMW #2. The BMW received a score of 95 and the Audi a 94. And the Audi costs less! And, and, and of course it has quattro.
When the 2002 and then the "new" 2003 A6's come out (and certainly replacement 5 series -- which may follow in the footsteps of the new highly anticipated 7 series Bimmer) the bar will again be raised. It has been so gratifying to see Car and Driver (my favorite of all the car magazines -- and according to my wife, I subscribe to them ALL) take the heat for again giving an Audi product such very high marks (and remarks). They did it with the A4 2.8 quattro sport vs the BMW and the S4 (circa 1994). Moreover, the S4 current version has received much praise in their publication and both the 2.7T and 4.2 A6's were on their 10 best list.
My guess is that they'll take heat regarding the remarks that claimed the A6 and 540 were so evenly matched. Makes these 23 years of loyalty (to Audi) seem worth it somehow.
BTW test reports, etc do say many good things about the new AWD Jaguar -- I have not driven one yet -- based only on the test reports, you probably wouldn't hate yourself if you bought one. But the editors of the car magazines still seem to rate the A6 more highly.
#1626 of 6920 X-type vs A6
by mbnut1
Aug 12, 2001 (8:04 pm)
The X-type is more a competator with the A4 rather than the A6 and I think that while overall it compares favorably with the current A4 it will likely not be as good as the upcoming 2002.
Aug 13, 2001 (12:18 am)
thats cool, but the most im gong to spend on a car is not more than 40K, and the 4.6 A6 costs 50K...so under 40K, would the x-type be a good choice..?
#1628 of 6920 More X-type vs. A6
by timcar
Aug 13, 2001 (6:28 am)
I doubt there are many people with enough real world experience to say if an X-Type will be preferable to an A6, but I doubt it. With all respect bmms8, you're cross shopping two different classes of car. If you're shopping $40K, or less, you would be hard pressed to fit a new A6 under that number. The A6 is better compared to the S-Type, 5 Series or E Class Mercedes. Though while Audi's have not always been trouble free, reports are that the S-Type has been even more so. I also think Jag dealerships are even more scarce and low volume than Audi, certainly here in the northeast.
Believe the A6 is a larger and much roomier car than the X-Type. Without having driven, or even seen an X-Type, my suspicion is the new 3.0 A4 will be a much better and more reliable ride. If you're shopping under $40, that's the real comparison. And you really need to go test-drive each to get any inkling as to which you personally prefer. I've learned from experience that you can't car shop by reading auto magazines.
Aug 13, 2001 (6:37 am)
I agree, car magazines are useful perhaps for putting a list together. And timcar is also correct, in the PRICE class you are looking at, the new A4 3.0 quattro is your comparison point, not an A6 of any flavor (even the bottom of the line A6 will overshoot 40K pretty quickly.
I have driven the new A4 quattro -- it is the best A4 ever.
Aug 13, 2001 (7:43 am)
Thank for the advice on handling upgrades. Sounds like tires are a good place to start,
I live in Chicago (hence the userid), where we are known to get more than a little bit of nasty winter weather. My A6 2.7t came with the standard continentals (16").
I would prefer to stick with the same tires year round. What would you recommend for a year-round performance 16" performance tire. How much will it improve handling? And how much are they likely to cost?
#1631 of 6920 Quick question
by trejos28
Aug 13, 2001 (8:26 am)
With the BOSE system, what in the heck does the "MIDDLE" button do? All the other buttons make sense, but this one has me stumped and the manual is no help.
btw, just passed 1,000 miles this weekend (only two weeks). can keep her off the road!
Thanks for your help.
#1632 of 6920 Bose Middle button?
by timcar
Aug 13, 2001 (9:13 am)
May be missing something, but I don't recollect a middle button on my head unit. Is that what it says? Could be. There is a button in the middle for adjusting the mid-range of frequencies. Is this what we're talking about?