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Audi A6, Sedan
Jul 16, 2001 (11:33 am)
I would like to hear opinions regarding the 1998 A6. I test drove 2 over the weekend (one w/ 27,000 miles and one w/ 37,000 - both Audi Certified). Both were priced at $28,000. I have not owned an Audi before. The 37,000 mile car had "every option" as far as I could tell. The 27,000 mile car did not have the Bose stereo or CD changer.
As I don't live near an Audi dealer (only one in the Portland, OR area) - I am hopeful that I would not have to visit them frequently. Please advise me on the reliability of the 1998 model as well as any areas of concern or great joy that this car entails.
Final decision - go w/ dark green (metallic) w/ 27,000 miles and no Bose or CD or dark red w/ 37,000 miles loaded?????
The other car that I am considering is a 2002 Acura TL-S. I have also played with the idea of a used A8 (saw a great price on a 1999 A8 w/ 18,000 miles - but the price was quite a bit higher than what I have been considering). Any personal experiences or opinions regarding these vehicles would be greatly appreciated as well!
#1428 of 6920 Audi A6's - 2002 and Beyond
Jul 16, 2001 (11:59 am)
I read a review of the 2002 A6's yesterday -- and in the article was a "pre-announcement" of the "all-new" A6 that is coming in 2003 (as a 2003 or 2004 the article did not say). After reading the article, I am getting a bit of a case of Audi Envy for those few of you on this forum who have placed orders for 2002's (especially 2.7T's with the sport package). The handling and ride equation on these new A6's is apparently a significant step forward over the current model A6's (especially the 2.8's). The new 3.0 engine was also lauded as was the TD engines offered in other (non-North American) markets.
On a related note:
Ralph at Northland told me that while Audi chose NOT to go to a DVD nav system that all nav (2002) customers will get ALL available CD/Maps rather than just one (as my wife and I received as part of our 2001 sat/nav options). While not as good as one DVD, this is a big cost item that, even if you would not use it much, you don't have to pay any upcharge for. Also, the Audi Telematics (not available on the first US shipments) sounds like a pretty cool fun and safety feature -- based on GM's ON*STAR and integrated with an available "factory" phone with voice command, the GPS and the entertainment system (apparently available in base and deluxe form -- base being like GM's advertised On Star offering). Upgraded and uprated brakes, standard ESP+brake assist across the entire line, lower unsprung weight on the front end, all moving the A6 a step closer to (but still not as good as) the coveted BMW chassis dynamics.
What is this, you concede the BMW is better balanced? You bet, but that one area of superiority does not mean I think the Bimmer (5 series) trumps the Audi (A6 series) -- especially the 2.7T and 4.2 models (dollar for dollar, feature for feature, performace (overall) vs performance (overall) -- the Audi still remains my choice and for many of us in this forum, the best choice).
And, the new new A6 (2003 calendar year) will, supposedly, move the chassis dynamics meter even more toward that coveted "balanced" rating that Bimmer-files love to shove in our faces.
Competition keeps imrpoving these things -- my "tired" old (11,000 miles) 2001 A6 4.2 is starting to have a (as in one) crow's foot. So many Audi's, so little time (and money). . . .
What a world, what a world.
#1429 of 6920 Used Audis -- which one to buy. Response to 1998 A6 2.8 by lostwages.
Jul 16, 2001 (12:08 pm)
I would not get either of these A6's -- because they are, IMO, underpowered, no other "hidden" or nasty or negative reasons. And, since you are undoubtedly buying rather than leasing, the money meter indicates that (see below):
- - - - - - - Personally, I would lease a new Audi A4 -- loaded -- at this price point. A 39 month (maximum) lease on the 2002 A4 will probably cost less than a 39 month finance of the used A6. - - - - - - - -
See your dealer for details on the cars, see your financing institution (and compare with Audi Financial) for details on the money. And, unless you are a rich person, don't pay cash for the car -- unless you plan to keep it "until the wheels turn square." Of course, if you are really really going to pile on the miles, I would POSSIBLY consider the lowest milage used A6, but if I needed to put miles on like there was no tomorrow, I would probably still strongly consider a brand new 2002 A4 (1.8T or 3.0) quattro (and consider the +25,000 (for a total of 75,000 miles on the "no surprise meter") mile full warranty that most dealers sell).
One man's opinion.
#1430 of 6920 Where did you read the review?
Jul 16, 2001 (2:43 pm)
Mark, what magazine did you find the review of the new A6 in? You forgot to mention it, and I can't go to the dealer for my order until I read that article. Would probably go for the 3.0 rather than the 2.7T, if it is also available with a 6-speed. Thanks in advance. Bye. mario
Jul 16, 2001 (2:49 pm)
The 3.0 will not have a 6 speed manual, nor any manual at all in the US (at this point). Only the 2.7T will have the 6 spd at this time.
#1432 of 6920 Dash Boards and Vinyl.
Jul 16, 2001 (3:48 pm)
I think the manual suggests just using a damp cloth and that's what I use along with the California Dash Duster. I have found that a damp cloth will remove foot smudges, etc. from vinyl surfaces just fine. The dash duster does a a good job on routine dusting. I actually use a feather duster on the radio, vents, etc. Works well. The vinyl in the A6 is the highest quality I've seen AND seems really tough. I'm reluctant to put any dressing on it and risk gumming it up.
Jul 16, 2001 (4:29 pm)
Made by the same people as Lexol, won't leave your dash all shiny.
Jul 16, 2001 (6:27 pm)
I need some advice. I have a chance to either buy a 1998 Audi A6 (not quattro), it has 27K miles on it and is certified to 75K / 5 years. price $24K. It is in great condition.
I could do the new lease thing and get a 2001 Audi A6 quattro for about $10 a month more than my payment would be on the abvoce car.
My problem is I have a 1999 328i that I will need to do something with. Obviously, if I lease, I won't get the tax credit from trading the car in.
I am about break even on the car (or maybe have a little equity).
Which way should I go?
Jul 16, 2001 (7:14 pm)
Generally I like to own my vehicles, but your situation seems so easy, that I wouldn't hesitate to lease the 2001. The lease rate currently is shockingly low, and won't be so when the 2002's
come out. So... ENJOY!
Jul 17, 2001 (7:25 am)
I agree completely with JK -- the lease on the brand new car is almost impossible to beat, and the car you will have will be significantly "better."