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#1401 of 6921 jkendall's new 2002 A6 2.7T
Jul 11, 2001 (5:39 am)
Congratulations -- it sounds like you will have a great car -- I would have added the Nav pkg personally, but other than that -- sounds great. Amulet red is a knockout -- currently it is avail on the TT. I think the interior will be a little closer to "carmel" or ecru -- in that it will have a hint more "natural" color than the melange that I have (which BTW is a little hard to keep clean -- harder than the ecru on my 1997 A8 that is).
BTW -- all the evidence I have been able to uncover (including a call to Ralph) -- says that you do not have a choice on the wheels -- they are 17" ers. Ralph verified this when I brought it to his attention. Apparently, he did not have his detail fly sheet on the 2002 2.7T at the time he was talking with you.
Oh yes -- with all those goodies, I "might" have been tempted to go with the 6spd. manual transmission (and since I don't know what the differences are in the Bose, I might even have gone for that too). My 2001 4.2 has the tip and now after 10,000 miles on the odometer, I do like the tip a little better -- but they "loaned" me an A4 today with a 5spd manual (while my A6 is in for the 10,000 mile svc) and I do like the fun factor of the manual even at my "advanced" age (50). I can't wait for the 2003's to come out -- my wife is now 13 months into her 30 month lease and I am 8 months into my 30 month lease. She will be ordering a 2003 TT about this time next year. These Audis just keep getting better and better all the time.
#1402 of 6921 Almost at 10,000 miles (since 2/01) by moimeme -- second opinion
Jul 11, 2001 (5:57 am)
As some of you "old timers" to this forum know, I have had two A6 4.2's -- I liked the first one (a 2000) so much I traded it in on a 2001, with sport, nav, prem -- mainly for the ESP feature which was lacking on the 2000 (I had been to the Audi driving school in Seefeld, Austria and had become a believer in the technology).
I have had very few "issues" with my car (now at 10,000+ miles since December 2000):
#1 I hated the Pirelli P6000 tires that came with it, so much that about 3,000 miles ago I replaced them with Yokohama AVS db's in the same size as OE (255x40x17") -- this I would say is a personal preference but the car IMMEDIATELY became virtually road-noise free and I graduated from a summer only tire to an all-season Ultra High Performance tire, which in Cincinnati makes more sense (we have moderate winters, mostly sleet and some snow). Again, I would not fault Audi for this choice -- but I do think that when ordering a $56,000 car you should have the choice of tires (perhaps 4 or 5 choices would be sufficient).
#2 For all the ballyhoo about the NEW brakes, I still find myself "annoyed" by the apparent lack of durability of the rotors -- they were replaced (warped) about 3,000 miles ago (same time as the tires); now the dealer wants to replace the pads -- the brakes still have a hint of shimmy or shudder at speeds over 70mph. I admit to fast driving (mostly on "rural" interstates) but I deny hard or repeated braking -- I never get brake burning smell. Even Car and Driver and Autoweek caution about the brakes lack of fade resistance and the fact that they are warp prone. This problem is a ditto of my 2000 A6 4.2 (happily all covered by the Audi advantage, but still "annoying" for a car this expensive; and my wife's TT 18,000 miles has invulnerable brakes, or so it seems). This factor is not going to keep me from another Audi though -- no way!
#3 A/C - heating motor had to be replaced due to squealing at certain fan speeds -- I also do not consider this an issue, S*** happens and the Audi advantage to the rescue and coincidental with the 10K service, so I still give the car an overall "superior" rating -- no kidding, nothing even comes close to this experience.
Drive a 2.7T and/or a 4.2 -- and, while I do think they are different from each other in many ways, these cars are "cut from the same cloth" -- and a very fine cloth it is.
#1403 of 6921 2002 A6 2.7t
Jul 11, 2001 (1:19 pm)
It seems jkendall ordered a 2002 Audi A6. Do you or anyone else know what the differences are with the 2001 A6? Any idea of price? When will they be available here in the US? Is it worth the wait for the changes or just get a 2001? I've heard of some changes ie. brakes, front end weight reduced, 3.0 V6, 40% quieter. Does anyone know where you can find out the info. Thanks in advance for your help. This is the first Audi I'll be buying and my first posting here.
Jul 11, 2001 (4:00 pm)
whg, check on: http://www.audiworld.com/news/index.html for the info you seek, click on 2001 archives, then April-June and scroll down to April Audi News, A6 gets a face lift. I think it's worth the wait. Cars should be arriving at the end of this month, 'cause they started building them a couple or so months ago. Yes, bigger brakes, tiptronic on the steering wheel, among some cosmetic changes, such as being able to see the exhaust tips, etc. There's a six page article about them. I have no idea of price, except the dealer and I agreed on a number above his invoice which seemed reasonable to me (remember there's no holdback, so you can't expect below invoice, especially on a new one). I like quiet, so the thicker glass and the 2db reduction in road noise is valuable to me, especially since the most noticeable thing I had in my test drive was tire noise. My guess on price is that it'll be close to the inflation rate, altho I have no way of being sure. I just want it, and not having to dicker over price was a wonderful experience.
#1405 of 6921 sport 17" wheels for 02
Jul 11, 2001 (4:11 pm)
Mark, actually that's great! I can't blame myself for not having ordered the 17s! I wanted them, but had a 'practical' brain f**t. Do you know what the size is? Surely they're not as big as on the 4.2 (255X40)?! If they are, I'll just have to watch to avoid pot holes, etc.
Also, the tip is my choice. I had manuals on five 911s and I'm 62, plus my bride will be driving it as well, and altho she's comfortable with stick, the tip is an incredibly effective solution to the AT lack of control of engine speed.
I have the world's most erratic schedule and wanted to call Ralph today to be sure he ordered the 6 disc changer. I'm hard of hearing, with two Siemens hearing aids, so, altho I am an audiophile (and Audiphile), the reports about the Bose perhaps not being worth it kept me from it. Ralph said the nav would have OnStar in a few months, so I'll just buy the bride a hand held gps 'til next time around.
#1406 of 6921 Tire size and other things jk
Jul 12, 2001 (5:34 am)
Ralph, at Northland Audi in Cincinnati, told me the 2002 A6 2.7T has a great deal of the look of a 2001 A6 4.2 -- flared front fenders, below the grill spoiler/air intake, etc. Now this tells me that it would be possible for the tire size to be 255 x 40 x 17. But, based on past experience with Audi's, they will probably have a somewhat smaller tire -- perhaps a 225, maybe even as big as a 245 with the profile appropriately factored in (perhaps as low as 45, but I cannot imagine higher than 50).
As I said, I (at age 50, if that has any relevance) have always preferred manual transmissions -- my wife's 6spd manual TT is a blast, my 1995 S6 (also manual) was terrific! My 1997 A8 had a non-tip 5spd AT and, beats me why, I never took to it. My 1999, 2000 and 2001 A6's all have had 5spd Tip-AT's and just now I am starting to "not mind" and actually enjoy (a bit) the transmission -- and, having read about the upcoming 6spd tip (not the multitronic) that will be on the A8's (which means "coming soon" to the A6's), well (shhhh don't tell anyone) I can't wait.
I read that the 6spd tip, unlike the multitronic, still has perceptable shift points, weighs 44 pounds less (than the current 5spd tip) and can handle much greater torque (which means, in theory at least, the Audi's will have more powerful engines mated to this transmission). I read, about this transmission, that it will equal the quickness of the manual transmission, but gives up a small amount of economy (which apparently the multitronic does NOT do). The multitronic must have some torque limitations at present which may account for its lack of availability on any of the higher performance Audi's -- in fact, I do not believe it will be available on the US bound quattros at least at first.
Anyway, I completely understand and at least partially agree with you JK, the auto transmissions (esp the tip) are very good indeed. On the other hand, choice is nice too.
I am such an Audi "nut" that I would love to have a 2002, but I am determined to wait for the 2003's, especially since, at 10,000+ miles, I have my A6 4.2 just about the "way I like it."
I expect full reports on your 2002 on this forum.
And, the first 2002's will probably hit dealers within the next 45 days (according to my dealer). Audi has, in the past, delayed their new cars introductions -- my guess is that would be to help dealers clear out the 2001 inventory. Perhaps with sales of the 2001's as brisk as they have been, this will not be as much of a factor this year.
#1407 of 6921 2002 A6
Jul 12, 2001 (8:51 am)
jkendall, thanks you for the much appreciated info. I went to the site you suggested and found plenty of information. I think I'll wait for the 2002's. I'm looking forward to them. Thanks again.
Jul 12, 2001 (11:06 am)
Hi, Can some one help me decide what to buy...I was thinking of 1996 audi a6 or volvo 850. My Dad for some reason does not like audi...although he had never even driven one before, does any one know which is better?
#1409 of 6921 lisampls - 2001 A6 2.7T Lease
Jul 13, 2001 (3:58 am)
How much money down in the A6 Lease deal?
Jul 13, 2001 (5:15 am)
Is it a quattro (the A6 that is)?