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Apr 08, 2001 (5:43 am)
I just bought a used 1995 Audi A6 and was wondering if anyone else owns it. I haven't seen too many of them on the road. I have never driven an Audi before and I don't know anything about them except that they had problems with their engine or some electrical problems or something sometime back. Does anyone know year and models with the problems and exactly what kind of problems? I know I should have researched before I bought it but I was in a jam and the car looked really good and well maintained. It's got 95k miles on it and I paid $9000 for it. Was this a good deal? The car's in really clean condition except that the instrument panel is kinda dim even with the knob turned all the way to the right. Also, the coolant temperature gauge and engine oil temperature gauge sits somewhere between the middle and the left of the dial ALLLL the time. It doesn't seem to change. I always drove Hondas and Acuras before and the gauges were always right in the middle of the dial when the car has been started for a while. Also, the transmission selector lever position display does not illuminate. It's just all dark. Would it cost me a lotta money to fix that? Maintenance was not often with Hondas and Acuras and those few maintenance that required repair usually didn't cost me too much. Anyway, I'm kinda uneasy about this purchase because I don't know these cars or anyone who's had Audi and I'm a little concerned about the high mileage on the car even though the seller assured me that Audis easily put 200k miles on the engine. Also, this is my first automatic transmission and it feels like the car hesitates and RPM jumps a bit abruptly at full throttle but I'm thinking maybe this is just a normal characteristic of this vehicle? Other than that, the car is very clean and well maintained. It looks beautiful in and out. I know I've written a long, tedious message but I'm desperate!!! I just need a peace of mind. I just dropped my lifetime savings on this thing. Please write back if anyone knows anything about my car. Thank you!!!
Apr 08, 2001 (6:41 pm)
There are so many moving parts in a new car that break-in is really important. Please try to keep the revs down for 1000-1500 miles at least. This will prevent any scarring of bearrings, etc; that will give you poor performance and gas mileage for the life of the car.
PLEASE do not take your car to a car wash if at all possible. The soap is so strong (to clean in one pass) it is guaranteed to strip your wax, and the brushes, strips, whatever, will rub the dirt from the previous dirty car into your nice paint, causing scrathes. If you wash your car every week, it goes fast and will save your paint. Be sure to use a car wash, such as Zip Wax or Westley's and not any type of household soap or detergent.
Apr 09, 2001 (6:56 am)
My friend was the sales manager of my Audi dealership for several years -- and in that capacity "won" a trip to Germany as one of the top 25 Audi salespeople in the world. He told me the factory would "loan" 0 miles cars to salespeople with but one admonition -- try not to "slam" on the brakes for the first 200km or so.
He said he was told to drive it on the Autobahn right out of the factory parking lot -- and he was told, drive it as fast as the traffic circumstances allow.
He said that he did not personally recommend such disregard for a break-in period and suggested that I not run the RPMs over 2/3 of red-line for the first 600+ miles (minimum).
My wife's 2001 225HP TT just turned 14K miles and she says it really started to "open up" after 12K -- my 2001 A6 4.2 just turned 5K miles and besides feeling more potent, it seems to growl all the more pleasingly under heavy or full throttle.
I generally "side" with the break-in crowd, and do not plan to go 10,000 miles between oil changes -- even with semi or full-syn oil -- 5,000 miles between changes in plenty, even if I have to pay for every other oil change.
I have personally had more problems with Audi brakes requiring break-in than any other component -- if not treated right for the first 100 -200 miles the rotors seem prone to developeing a shudder and then requiring replacement (generally front only).
#1047 of 6921 RE:1995 A6 by tokee
Apr 09, 2001 (10:14 am)
Greetings. I recently went through the same situation. I purchased a 1996 A6 quattro with 125,000 miles. Make sure the timing belt has been changed - I think 90,000 is the time. I had one replaced at purchase because I couldn't live with the risk/expense of failure. Cost me 300.00, and later found the previous owner had replaced belt, h2o pump, bearing, etc at 90k. The most painful experience thus far has been the steering rack. Failed at arount 130k, cost $800 parts and labor - could have been up to $2,000 - ouch. New tires now, and I love it. Makes the Jaguar sit in the garage!
Your gear shift indicator light is probably burned out as is mine. Other bulbs might also be out. Apparently the gear light is actually the LCD, which will cost a bunch to replace and they are generally prone to fail when the dash is opened up. My heat guages start from rest (full left) and when fully warm are at 1/4 to 1/3 from left. BTW I paid $9,500 in December, books said $15-$17,400 considering the hi miles. Since then I have ponied up an additional 350 (timing belt) 800 (rack) and recently 500 for some really nice rim protectors.
#1048 of 6921 600 Mile Report
Apr 09, 2001 (7:30 pm)
The car is now 10 days old.
- Front passenger seatbelt height adjuster is jammed - I can't pop it back into place. Hopefully the dealer will be able to without taking apart the whole B-pillar.
- The suspension has more float than I expected with the sport suspension. Maybe I'm not used to a 4000+ lb. car, and it is after all, a four-door sedan. Sometime I'll go test drive the competition and probably realize how nice it is.
- Will have the dealer reprogram the Parktronic beep(s) to a lower volume. Will also send them my hearing damage bill. It's so loud I don't think I can wait 'till the 5K service.
- Assembly of front door pockets seems below par. Good materials etc., and the little doors stay shut, they just don't seem to align well when shut (the rear-most part of the rear pocket doesn't seem as flush as it could be).
- Will have the dealer reset the airbag light which came on as a result of having the windows tinted (the guy had to do some disassembly in the back...but did an EXCELLENT job).
Nitpicks I knew about in advance:
- I sure wish I could have ordered a manual transmission with the 4.2. The TIP is okay, but just okay. It's hard to know exactly what it's going to do - with a manual, I KNOW. Perhaps I'm just not used to it yet. The whole package runs at amazingly low revs when just tooling around. I often see 1200-1300 rpm there. Also, why is the TIP offset to the passenger side of the car? I've accidentally bumped it back into the full auto side at least 4 or 5 times; it's just too easy to pull or bump toward you (the driver).
- Now that I've had time, I still don't like or think that the rear seating arrangement was a good choice on Audi's part. The center seating position should at least have a three-point belt.
- V8. Smooth wonderful power - lots of each. I'm looking forward to getting out of the break-in period. I almost wish the exhaust were a little louder.
- Sport Package. While I do sense a little wallow and float, I cannot complain about the excellent control and very little body roll. Handles bumps mid-corner nicely and left-right-left type maneuvers are smooth. The 17" wheels and tires look great, and the Conti's are okay, but again, I look forward to pushing more as I get up to and past a reasonable break-in mileage.
- Interior. Fantastic design coupled with first rate materials and fit and finish. A wonderful place to be.
- Exterior. I'd have said that this car was a real visual sleeper before I took delivery. Now that I've been driving it, I can say that it gets so much attention that I'm a little embarrassed! People walking along actually stop to look at it. The fit and finish are perfect.
- Navigation package. Not just fun but useful too. It's amazing to me that it works so well.
- Problem free; no windshield distortion, no rattles or squeaks, no front license plate, no this-that-and-the-other-thing(s) at all.
Probably forgetting a bunch of stuff, but as it's most likely all good stuff, oh well. I am so happy that I made the choice of this car vs. the others I was considering (BMW, Mercedes). It's really an awesome machine.
For pics see:http://www.parallaxview.com
P.S. Go to www.audiworld.com in the A6 forum for some pics with the window tint.
Thanks for the responses re: break-in. I will never wash this car in a car wash. No excuse in San Francisco Bay Area to not get out there and hand-wash the car.
Apr 10, 2001 (2:02 am)
Those are the best pictures of the A6 I've ever seen! So clear with such great detail. Thanks.
#1050 of 6921 600 Mile Report by lmgotts
Apr 10, 2001 (6:53 am)
Agree with almost everything you say -- fortunately I have not had the minor fit and finish nits (seat belt height adjustment) that you have had (I am 5K miles.) I do not like my Pirelli P6000's, the Tiptronic is OK -- heck for all I know it is great -- but as you say, it isn't a manual and it seems to downshif in Tip mode somewhat reluctantly. The navigation system continues to impress me more all the time yet the Nav Plus would be "way cool."
My only real disagreement with your opinion is that I do like the rear seat -- but I look at the rear seat of the A6 4.2 as a 2 place; rear bucket seats. Personal preference.
Having had the non-sport suspension A6 4.2 (2000) w/17" wheels/tires I can attest that the sport package is a big improvement. Yet, I agree with you -- I was hoping for a bit more "sport." I guess that is what is on the S6. Frankly, I think the sport suspension and wheels and tires should be "standard" on this car -- the "comfort" suspension is way to floaty.
The light light power steering is good a speeds below 20 or 25, but does not stiffen up enough for the twisties for my tastes.
You know, I suspect we both wanted S6's and these A6's are meant to be the luxury sport offering, not the sport luxury version (drive a new S8 and you will see what the S guys can do.) A 6 spd manual would go a long way toward changing this perception for me -- especially since there is STILL no S6 sedan coming for sure for sure.
My understanding is that there is a sportier version of the suspension which lowers the ride another 10mm over the sport option, also I have read that there is a shorter final drive ratio (higher numerically) available and a different steering option that reduces the turns of the wheel lock to lock by about 25% -- finally, I believe there is a brake upgrade (Brembo?), cat back exhaust and spoilers to "sport up" your Executive A6 4.2.
But since much of this -- even the bits that are "factory" sanctioned -- costs fairly big bucks, it seems like it would be better just to get the real thing -- a genuine Audi S6 or S6+ -- except, they aren't available in North America.
None of the above is meant to imply or state regret -- I am very satisfied with the 2001 A6 4.2 w/sport package and the standard ESP -- the car performs virtually flawlessly and as a repeat buyer, I can say I plan to repeat again and again -- but hopefully next time with an S6 -- 24 months to go on the lease. C'mon Audi of America -- read the Market. Why an S8 $80K came to the US before an S6 is beyond me.
#1051 of 6921 Lease prices on A6 2.7t
Apr 10, 2001 (9:33 am)
We've got an A6 on order (will take 4mos to get!) and they've told us what our lease payment will be. It has worked out to be almost $100/mo. more than a BMW 530 loaded would cost. I don't understand this since the BMW is about $3,000 more than the Audi (after getting our best price from both). My husband now wants me to get the BMW. My heart is with the Audi. Can someone explain this? Any advice?
#1052 of 6921 Color choices
Apr 10, 2001 (9:37 am)
Also, one problem I'm having with the Audi is color choice. Nothing really stands out to me. I think the silver is the nicest looking, but it only comes with a dark interior. I love the melange. Does anyone have the pearlescent white? One is coming available. I know it's a special order color. Any opinions would be appreciated.
#1053 of 6921 Lease prices on A6 2.7t $$$$
Apr 10, 2001 (10:25 am)
The opposite is true in Cincinnati -- a "loaded" 530 for 39 months was almost $150 / month more than a loaded A6 2.7T -- with sport everything -- the Audi had been discounted over $3,000 from MSRP and the 530 was discounted about $1,000 off MSRP. The Audi initial discount was the opening offer and the $1,000 off the Bimmer was the "final offer."
This information was from the second week of March 2001.
You Audi dealer or your MSRP or something is "out of wack."
Of course even if the price was IDENTICAL on the 530 and the 2.7T, when we drove both (both Automatics by the way), there was NO comparison, the Audi was much quicker and quieter and it was about $2K less sticker (then see above for true retail). The Audi was not quite $47K MSRP and the Bimmer was just about $49K.
The Audi did not have the Nav package, nor the factory Phone -- did have leather, etc.
Try again -- the Audi "should" be a better deal -- we already know it is (or should be) a better value.