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Replying to: matramesh (Sep 04, 2007 9:10 am) |
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Replying to: thegraduate (Sep 13, 2007 10:11 pm)  You definitely have too much time on your hands. We had this same discussion three months ago, and nothing has changed since then. You have the same argument ( opinion ) with the seating in the Corolla because of something wrong with the length of your legs or arms or what ever. and yes the reason we bought the Corolla was to go from point A to point B. Why else would you purchase any vehicle. Not sure a car "enthusiast" would be driving a Corolla or Civic or any compact vehicle to start with. Something like the Ford Mustang, Chevy Corvette, BMW, or Lexus would come to mind. However at three dollars a gallon for gas and 30+ MPG on her Corolla "relentlessly boring to operate" isn't a bad thing. 
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I own an '04 Corolla which I bought new. I never experienced any real discomfort in the driver seat. I've banged my knees against the dashboard at exiting mainly. I believe that Toyota should make it a little higher, but that means that they will have to push the roof upwards or tall people wouldn't fit. The car is already tall. I'm 5'7". Now, what's up with fun to drive factor or people buying it to go from A to B. I'm a car enthusiast, not an expert, but feel that this car always delivers. Good power,and torque, fuel economy and dependability, as well as value with safety. This isn't a BMW, Audi or Lexus. Corolla is an honest to goodness car. 
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Replying to: kenym (Sep 14, 2007 2:02 pm) Wow, you don't have to be hateful about it. If you are taking my posts about a vehicle so personally, I'm not sure I should be the one re-evaluating my personality and life. You have the same argument ( opinion ) with the seating in the Corolla because of something wrong with the length of your legs or arms or what ever. Yep, the Corolla not offering a tilt AND telescoping wheel like the Civic is my fault. "relentlessly boring to operate" isn't a bad thing. What's this? An opinion? I thought these weren't allowed. Not sure a car "enthusiast" would be driving a Corolla or Civic or any compact vehicle to start with. Well, when the person who enjoys driving also is mindful of economy, like you say, they find a car that is more fun to drive while still getting them from A to B.
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Replying to: danielj6 (Sep 14, 2007 2:42 pm) 5'7", you shouldn't have a problem. The problem is that with the seat back for taller drivers the steering wheel is too far away; a telescoping steering wheel would do WONDERS for this car. It has enough room, in general. I'll bet money they put it on the 09. The car delivers adequate acceleration (I think it needs more low-end or a closer-ratio transmission), but then again we're just sharing our thoughts on here aren't we? If we can't do that then we ought not to be here - I'm not forcing you to agree! .As far as fun-to-drive, the Corolla jsut really didn't deliver for me. The handling is safe, but that's about it. The car has lots of body roll relative to others in the class. The steering of the Corolla makes the Civic feel REALLY sporty in contrast, and the Mazda 3 is like a go-kart in comparison. That's the cost of the softer ride of the Corolla though. Not a bad thing if your goal is a smooth ride; just not conducive to "fun." Next to a basic "Car" in the dictionary, you'd find Corolla. It is efficient, relatively roomy, and cheap to own. It's also as bland as white bread in my opinion.
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Replying to: thegraduate (Sep 14, 2007 3:15 pm) People should allow your opinion, thegraduate. The Corolla isn't your thing! I'm not sure this generation is my thing, either, as much as I love Corollas. Me personally, I don't particularly need my car to be fun-to-drive. I need to not have to worry about it. I spend probably an hour a day tops in it, going to and from work, and stopping at the store. I don't need sporty because I'm not going over 60mph, anyway. I need it to have enough fire to get me on the freeway for a 9 mile trip, that's all. So, for me, bland is good, boring is excellent, reliable is out of this world. I will insist on a good-looking car, though. I think the current generation lacks somewhat, especially when compared to the last generation, but it's not ugly, and I could live with it if I had to. If you need more from your four-door sedan, it's OK! I respect that. I do think people get too enamored with superlatives, though. For people like me, adequate is plenty (I think the Corolla's sales figures suggest I'm not alone in this). I guess what I'm saying is, whatever you need your car to do for you and where you need it to take you is your own decision. If the Corolla, past, current, or future isn't doing it for you, nobody should castigate you for your needs. As for me, I may yet give generation nine a chance. Do you know, Dub Richardson Toyota is selling a 2008 right now on the Auto Trader for $14,991 and it only has 400 miles on it! Very tempting, even if it is an automatic!
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Replying to: irismg (Sep 14, 2007 3:45 pm) Thanks for the kind words. I don't necessarily equate power with sport though. A Cadillac DTS is a fast car (291hp), but its not sporty/fun. A car like a Honda Fit will be out-accelerated in straight line by a Corolla, but it is a pure HOOT to drive. Quick steering, nimble in corners, it handles like its on rails. That's a car I'd look forward to DRIVING. The fact that some people want a car like they want an appliance does make sense to me, actually. They want it to get the job done everytime, use as few resources as possible (fuel), have enough power to get the job done, but could care less about the driving experience as a whole. For that type of person, a Corolla or Camry is an excellent car. Soft and smooth in its operation, it does little to disturb you while you are driving. It doesn't excite you to drive, but that's good - because you aren't looking for "fun" from your car; it is strictly a tool. I completely buy that argument (not that you need my validation! ). My mom is that person. I'm just my father's son, and enjoy the sound of a high-revving engine, or taking the curvy river road near my house at speeds that would make a Buick passenger throw up (not tire-squealing/reckless driving or anything, but briskly). It's a fun experience to me to have a car that can handle mycommute comfortably every day and deliver excellent mileage for the power it delivers (like the Corolla does) AND be a fun little toy when I want a little more than an appliance.
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Replying to: thegraduate (Sep 14, 2007 6:31 pm) These days I don't need all that much excitement! LOL I guess I'm becoming more European as I get older.. BTW, I understand you can take a newer Corolla and install a "sway bar" in the back that they say will do wonders for any body roll you find. Who knows, maybe that and a set of Uniroyals may help! And, if you punch a hole in the muffler, you might get the noise you're looking for!  I mean, you may prefer a car you don't have to customize, and I don't blame you, but this could also be part of the...um..."fun" in owning a car! Which reminds me, there's a Prius in our parking lot that has the best decal work I've ever seen! It looks like the front end's on fire, with the "flames" going into the door! Now THERE's someone having some fun with a car that's normally even blander than the Corolla!  The most I ever did to any of my cars was put a stripe of Rainbow Tape down the sides of the Maverick.
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Replying to: irismg (Sep 14, 2007 8:28 pm) BTW, I understand you can take a newer Corolla and install a "sway bar" in the back that they say will do wonders for any body roll you find. Who knows, maybe that and a set of Uniroyals may help! And, if you punch a hole in the muffler, you might get the noise you're looking for! I mean, you may prefer a car you don't have to customize, and I don't blame you, but this could also be part of the...um..."fun" in owning a car! Haha, I'm not a ricer or anything. My two cars aren't what any self-respecting ricer (is there such a thing? LOL kidding) would call sporty. They have stock wheels and 4-cylinder engines. But to offer the respectable ride that they do they are also a pleasure to own and drive. The difference is that the Toyota cars are typically more of a pleasure to RIDE in (smoother/quieter/more comfortable). By the way, i'm not a Corolla hater - I drove my (now ex-) girlfriend's Corolla for many a mile. Other than the reach to the wheel, the car was a comfortable freeway cruiser - it rode as well if not better than my much larger 2006 Accord. It just didn't handle as tightly. Any car that can get 28 MPG with her lead-footed driving style (4,000 RPM plus and 85 MPH was typical for her daily commute - it's why I stopped riding with her) deserves plenty of accolades. On a trip I got 10 MPG higher than that, at 75 MPH. I was impressed (it was a Silver 2004 Silver LE with the Moonroof, ABS, and Side-Airbags). A very NICE car. But it is the "nice" part that is too overwhelming - it was a polite car, but a wallflower as well. Here's a picture of my two Accords to prove my "non-ricer" heritage! (I'll explain why a single 20 year old has two Accords another time ). The one on the left is a 1996 with nearly 175,000 miles. The one on the right is a 2006 closing in on 25,000 miles. The older one is actually the more fun (smaller and more spry), despite the new one being faster in a straight line. 
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Replying to: thegraduate (Sep 14, 2007 8:39 pm)
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