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You are in the Toyota Corolla
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Toyota Corolla, Sedan
Nov 29, 2000 (12:39 am)
It is true that the Ford F-150 came out before the Tundra. 1997 before 2000. However, the T-100 came out in 1993. The present F-150 looks like the evolution of the T-100. If you go back to the car magazines of the day, you will see the authors saying the same thing. The Tacoma came out in 1995.5 and a year before the new F-150 and you could see the styling after the T-100. When the Tundra came out in 2000 it was built off the Tacoma theme. Toyota wanted to make both trucks look from the same family. Ford sells a little less than a million trucks a year and they automatically get the benefit of the doubt. Not to beat a dead horse, but thats how it happened.
I will add though that Toyota did most of their style copying the 70's and early 80's. For example, the first 2 generation Celicas were styled after the Ford Mustang. Then the next generation Celica (82-85) was unique.
A good question remains and maybe wenyue would like to give it a shot. Toyota is by far the biggest automaker of Japan. It has 5 divisions similiar to GM. My car, a 89 Corolla GT-S came out the same year in 88 as did the Mazda MX-6. With the exception of the pop-up headlights on my Corolla, the cars are styled almost identical. Did the Corolla come first and Mazda tried to copy it? It's like David copying Goliath. A more modern example might be how the new Camry looks awfully close to an Accord. This generation Camry came out first though.
I believe Toyota is on their own path like the Echo and the Prius, but will they styling theme carry the day. Come to think of it, you see some of the styling in the new Avalon.
Nov 29, 2000 (3:04 pm)
I've never been an expert of truck/suv or even the auto industry, so I'm not aware of the stuff you just said. I am interested on pickup due to new hobby (in which the poor Corolla won't do) and the practicallity of it, and naturally I check on Toyota's product first.
Regarding style copying, I wish they set the trend instead of following one, but thats just a dream i guess
only down 4% ?? You haven't feel the pain yet buddy ^__^.
Always wondered why German's car command premium, while they're nothing more than a cab in their motherland (yeah, me talking bout MB).
Nov 29, 2000 (3:59 pm)
If you need a Tacoma, its a little expensive, but they have multistyles like the new crew cab which kind of suprised me to be as big as it is, but the bed is awfully small. The Tacoma or like truck before it named Truck has always been assembled relative to the Corolla.
If your hobby requires a bigger bed or more towing capacity, a Tundra is great. The extended cab version is something not very desirable in comfort (I have a regular cab). I tow my camping trailer with mind and haul lots of stuff. I have the V6.
Both trucks have awesome 4 wheel drive systems, but the Tacoma is not as wide or as long and might be able to go more places.
Nov 29, 2000 (4:12 pm)
4% is a pain. Take in to the consideration that the inflation is probably 2.5%, and the return from a governement bond is like 8%.... This is a pain, thinking that there is a 12+% difference between what I could have made and what I ended up losing..... This is a huge contrast between last year's 99% grwoth and this year's 4% loss. Erhhh...
As for german brand. Yes, I wonder about that too. Mercedes makes cabs and mini cars as well as their luxury cars in Europe. They are just like GM or Ford, making a full range of cars from cheap to expensive. The german brand seems to get alot more recognition in the U.S than they get back in their home country.
What I really don't understand is why VW command such a premium. I just don't get it! Since it's less capable and less reliable than the Toyota or Honda, the only way I would buy it is if VW is couple thousand dollars cheaper. But it's the other way around....
Nov 29, 2000 (8:01 pm)
I did look at the Tacoma, but that was back before they come out with the crewcab. My problem with compact pickup is the lack of room for more than 2 passenger. Cant imagine squeezing friends in the jumper seats, but if you move to the crewcab, the bed becomes pretty much useless...and yes, the Tacoma is priced well over its competitor as well.
I didn't intend of towing anything, but will do some hauling and definitely some off-roading as well. I guess in that case, 4x4 is a definite must?
The Tundra Extended cab on the other hand offer decent room on the backseat and the bed is still usefull. and boy, it rides much much better than what I ever expected from a truck
Oh well, more thing to consider. I havent even looked at the BIG 3 offering yet, except for some ride in friend's Silverado, F-150 & Ranger. They do offer advantages in prices/value. But looking at the pickup board, all of them have their share of problems.
Family used to have a VW Beetle. Its a competent little compact with less problem than the usual VW. thats the only VW we ever owned so I dont know much more than the Beetle. What I can say is that German car seems more geared toward the sporty side and driver's experience. Much more than Honda. The quality of the interior seem quite impressive as well.
Having said that, would I trade my Corolla for a VW Golf? Hehe, N E V E R!!! ^__^
I don't think a Golf is a worthy adversary for Corolla, and the Jetta is way too expensive to be in the same category with Corolla. Its more expensive than even the Civic.
And you still do good in your portfolio. Myself has sustained more than 15% losses YTD, and I know ppl that lose more than half their money.....
Good thing we still a few decades from retirement eh? ^__^
#303 of 4027 Price of VWs
Nov 29, 2000 (8:28 pm)
The price of VW's is set by supply and demand. Buyer's are willing to pay a premium for them because there is virtually no competition(if any) for them in the small German car market. The Golf will have even less competition in the small hatchback market now that Honda has discontinued the Civic hatchback due to low sales. Also, the new Civic no longer will have double-wishbone front suspension, giving VWs even less competition for those seeking sportier handling.
#304 of 4027 Jetta vs. Rolla
Nov 29, 2000 (11:41 pm)
Are the dimensions of the Corolla similar to the Jetta or Golf in length? Seems the Jetta/Golf has a higher roof line leaving a more roomy impression. Standard features are longer also. Price is about $1 - $1.5K more though.
#305 of 4027 Golf/Jetta vs Corolla
Nov 30, 2000 (1:02 pm)
Length of each
Courtesy of Edmund, they also said that Jetta is the sedan's version of Golf.
Pricewise, the Golf is around$1.5-2K more than a Corolla, while the Jetta is around $3K more.
VW has some of things going for them, great styling, sporty performance, good fit & finish. For some people this is more than enough to overcome VW shaky reliability factor and justify paying the premium (are these things sell for MSRP??), just as many people still buy Chrysler product despite their transmission woes.
#306 of 4027 Corolla 2000 Tune up
Dec 02, 2000 (10:06 am)
A local Toyota dealer told me that at 30K,
my Corolla CE needs to be tune up and it needs expensive, special spark plugs (NOT Platium or Resistor), cost $75.00.
Another local dealer told me that it needs only
Resistor spark plugs and costs $50.00 for the
tune up. (Southern California)
Please, let me know which one is correct?
Should I do the tune up or wait until 60K?
Dec 02, 2000 (12:05 pm)
If the spark plugs aren't platinum, you can replace them yourself for about $10, and it's an easy job on these engines. $50 would easily cover the cost of an oil/filter, air filter, and PCV valve change as well - if you do it yourself.