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#2030 of 4027 I'm surprised at some of the comments...
Jul 23, 2002 (12:00 pm)
I have to say, I'm very surprised by some of the nitpicky comments made on the ratings page for the 2003 Corolla. How much exactly should we expect from an economy car? I was amazed at the standard features of the 2003 and impressed by the ride as well. I also think the 2002 Civic is a great car, but ultimately went with the Corolla because my wife and I have always owned Toyotas and because the overall feel of the Corolla when we test drove it was better.
The truth is, I would be perfectly happy with either car, and both the Honda and Toyota dealers we talked with offered good prices without a lot of haggling. Ultimately, I purchased and am waiting for the delivery of a 2003 Corolla LE with side air bags, ABS, the upgraded stereo package, and a couple other little things. The price I'm paying is about $17,300.00 out the door. The prices I was offered by the Honda dealers were pretty comparable to that.
#2031 of 4027 dpflanagan
Jul 23, 2002 (3:01 pm)
I think you got a good deal. I'd say that if the Civic was the same price as the Corolla, I would also go for the Corolla, not just because I like Toyotas as well, but because of the value the Corolla offers over the Civic.
#2032 of 4027 japan built corollas (how is the quality??)
Jul 24, 2002 (9:54 pm)
anyone have a japanese built 2003 corolla for long enough to see if any problems have arisen?? My car only has 900 miles on it so its to soon to tell.
#2033 of 4027 4 month, 12,000 mile update
Jul 25, 2002 (11:30 am)
I bought my Corolla (LE, AT)in March of this year. At the time I bought it, I was doing quite a bit of driving and I have already put on 12,000+ miles. Some of my notes:
1. Check engine light has come on twice. Both times were during 450 mile trips, while I had a/c running. The light came on about halfway through the trip, after I had stopped for 20 minutes or so. I took the vehicle in the first time, and the dealership checked the codes and found nothing wrong. The second time, the light went off 1 day later, before I had a chance to get the car to the dealer.
2. My car was one of the first built (US made), so I was affected by the early recall. I found out about the recall on this site, and dealer corrected it at first service.
That is it, as far as problems are concerned. No rattles, squeaky brakes, the fit is good, and I am very happy with my purchase. The car suits my needs (basic commuting, now) very well. It is not our main family transport vehicle, but my wife, two kids, dog, and luggage can fit in it very comfortably if we have to. My best mpg was 42, on a trip between Kansas City and Minneapolis. I had a slight tailwind, and the a/c was off - 70 to 75 mph the whole way. My overall mpg, city and highway, remains at about 33-34. FWIW, my previous vehicle was a Mazda Millenia, and I am convinced the Corolla has just as much interior room as the Mazda. Plus, maintenance is more reasonable, and the timing chain vs timing belt is a huge selling point in my opinion.
Jul 26, 2002 (6:17 pm)
My 1996 Corolla DX has put me into a very frustrating situation. Since its purchase in January, the rear-left power window has stopped working, the shifter column light has burnt out, aftermarket sunroof has broken and I found that the car does not have anti-lock brakes as I was told it did by the last owner. All of these problems have been around for a few months but just recently I had the sunroof checked. I was told that the Vanmuelen-Hollandia sunroof's motor would need to be replaced at a cost of several hundred dollars...just a few more hundred would replace the sunroof. However, it is a non-standard sized one (of course for my luck). It used to tilt and slide back but now only tilts and I was told not to open it at all because the motor could go out and I'd be left with an open sunroof. This is my first car and you can see I am very frustrated. I didn't intend to buy a car with a glass window in the roof nor a car without ABS. I can always sell it and I did get a good deal on it so it may be possible for me to sell it at or above the price I paid. I don't want to lose too much money on the deal if I did. I could also keep the vehicle until next summer when 1998-1999 Celicas (the car I'd want to replace it with) are lower in price. Having the Corolla for another year would help me to continue gaining experience without the struggle of dealing with a sporty car. Any suggestions or insight? Your thoughts are much appreciated.
And just to sum up my point--it's not like I want a different car because I don't like the way it looks (because I think this is one of the best looking small sedans made at that time) but because the features that I wanted don't exist anymore--ABS and power sunroof were the reasons I bought this car over all others.
#2035 of 4027 Re Dilemma
Jul 26, 2002 (8:07 pm)
It's pretty simple, actually. Just ask yourself if you can live for another year with a car that has a power rear window that doesn't work, a sunroof that doesn't open, and no ABS, while you save up for your Celica. A lot of people drive cars without power windows, sunroofs, and ABS. Shoot, my car has power windows but no sunroof or ABS, and I like it just fine. Also find out how much cheaper those 98-99 Celicas really will be one year from now. They've already had their steepest depreciation, so one more year won't make all that much difference, maybe a couple of thousand if that. Also find out for how much you could sell a six-year-old Corolla with a non-operating window and a non-operating sunroof. Prospective buyers may be turned off by those failings as much as you are, and you'll need to drop the price accordingly.
Jul 26, 2002 (8:30 pm)
Yeah Backy...and besides...who uses a sunroof in the winter anyway? Plus I lock my other windows so my sister and her friends don't put them up and down. I'll stick it out for a year. But also Backy, you knew what you were getting in your car...I didn't know what I was getting, well I actually I did but it only lasted for a little while. You'd be surprised to see how expensive 1996-1997 Corollas are in the Cincinnati area. Dealers are charging at least $9,000 for Corollas with not nearly as many options as mine has.
Jul 27, 2002 (2:58 am)
Coolguyky7, you've impressed me with your maturity and judgment since your very first post. That being said, be SURE to check insurance rates on that Celica before you even think of buying one. Insurance companies + young males + even a hint of sporty often = MUCH MONEY.
Maybe not in this case, but I have seen it happen too often. The time to know what the insurance is going to cost is BEFORE you buy the car.
That being said, I hope this works out for you. My advice, too, would be to wait, but this is a close call.
Jul 27, 2002 (5:14 am)
My drivers side rear window on my '96 DX also works but then it stops working for a couple of months, then it works again. Some sort of gremlin in there. I also had to replace the bulb in the shifter, wasn't a big deal though. Don't have a sunroof or ABS, so not a problem. All I can say is to get the shifter light fixed and keep the power windows in the lock position. Live with the broken sunroof and save up your money for about a year. The car drives flawlessly otherwise and you're young enough, so bite the bullet for a bit longer.
On a side note, am renting a new Camry this weekend and man, does it drive smoothly! A little to big for me, but what a car!
Jul 27, 2002 (6:49 am)
Yes, I'm hoping that the insurance rates on the last generation Celica are lower than what would be expected since it's more of a sporty coupe, having only 130 horsepower. I would definitely investigate that. Also, because I'm so picky, I may just wait until a car like I desire comes along in the local market...and since I am so picky...I just might be waiting longer than next summer. Thanks for your opinions everyone.
Amd another thing on insurance...this girl my age has a 98 Eclipse convertible and either her insurance was very reasonable or was twice what I pay, depending on if the $900 was semi-annual or annual.