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#117 of 812 55K 1992, speakers, rumbling, timing belt
Dec 06, 2000 (1:42 am)
As mentioned before, I have two Legends, a 1991 with 120K and a 1995 with 50K. I have had the 1991 for nearly eight years, and just bought the 1995. They are really excellent cars, that is why I searched for a 1995 instead of buying new. They just don't make anything that compares in my mind except possibly a $40000BMW but that is too much to pay for a car as far as I am concerned.
Re: Speaker problems-Bose system
My speakers made crackly noises, sometimes faded out, sometimes worked fine. The problem was the power amp in the trunk. It is between the back of the back seat and the protective cover to the trunk. The cost for an Acura replacement is about $700. I considered replacing the entire system, but was informed by my service rep (at Tischer Acura in Laurel MD) that I could go to a auto radio shop(also in Laurel) and that they could fix the problem cheaper. They installed a Phoenix Gold Power Amp. for about $300. The system now works swell, probably better than new.
Re: Used 1992.
Problems to look for include 1)cracked radiators. Mine cracked at about 50K, 2)brake rotor problems, which can be mostly eliminated by torquing the front lugs to the proper value (I think 80 ft.lbs)but having all the lugs torqued to the same value is what is most important.3)Bose stereo problems as previously mentioned. 4) the rocking seat, for which there is an Acura service bulletin.
According to Consumer Reports, and from all the research I have done, the 1994 and 1995 models are more reliable than the 1991-1993 models, but they are all excellent. I can say that the 1995 is quieter and seems to ride and handle better than the 1991, but the 70 K miles difference may be a factor. In either case, they are excellent cars.
Re: Rumbling noise while turning
Check the CV joints
Dec 06, 2000 (2:26 am)
You mention a service bulletin on the rocking seat. I have a 1993 with a rocking seat and my dealer claims they can do nothing. Where can I find the bulletin? I have also had trouble with my Bose and have had the head unit, amps and two speakers replaced under warranty. On cold days, I still get a static or buzzing noise until the unit warms up. Does anyone have any thoughts on a fix? Other than the seat and the Bose POS it is the best car I have ever had.
Dec 06, 2000 (3:34 am)
Alright - after reading some of the entries over the past week, I decided to post my own story about the speaker problem. First of all, I have a '94 GS. The problem with the speaker is the driver side one - the door mounted Bose is the only one which gives me problems.
I first noticed the problem a few months ago, but it only happened a few times - usually, I would turn off the radio, wait, then turn it back on and everything would be okey. But, over the past three weeks, that one speaker has gotten really bad! A hissy, strained, broken up, crappy sound comes out everytime I get in the car. The only thing I could compare it with is when a radio station is just out of range, but you can still pick up the station, just not clear. Well, the weather has gotten much colder out, and this might be one of the problems. Tonight I was out and had the radio on - well about 5 minutes go by and it starts to come in clear! Maybe it "heated up" but this had never happened before - when it plays bad, it has always played bad for the whole time - but this time (for some reason) it was okey after 5 minutes.
Either way, I plan on (perhaps) taking the door cover apart next week (when I finally get some time off!) - I will be looking for perhaps just a bad connection with the speaker. It was also suggested to me by my father that the speaker might be shot, but I don't think so because all the other ones are fine and nothing has ever happened to the system before which would cause this problem. I might check out the amp if the wiring is okey with the speaker at the door, but it is only one speaker!
Boy, I love this car!
Dec 10, 2000 (7:07 pm)
Thanks for the link to the service bulletins. I have seen them before but I reviewed them again and I still could not find the bulletin regarding the rocking seat that apowell 1 mentioned. On the other hand, who could miss the multiple bulletins on the POS Bose.
#121 of 812 '86 Legend Starting Problem
Dec 10, 2000 (11:36 pm)
Hi folks. I've been lurking around the Acura & Legend list for some time. I have had a 5-speed '86 since '87 (previous owner traded it in for a new '88)...and I now have 210K miles on her. I can certainly relate to all of the posts about the "love affair" with the Legend - for I am only now toying with the "keep or buy new" argument. [Tangent: If I do buy I want to remain in the same "class" of car...but to do so I am finding I'd have to pay $40-$50K...grrrh.]
From a repair history I can truly say that she has not been without fault - but my average total yearly repair cost has remained around $1000-1500. Some years have been higher...but on the whole she has been a *fantastic* car.
This year will probably be her breaking point since I am trying to work out a vexing starting problem.
The problem appears to be similar to the key ignition problem mentioned earlier; however, in my case the car always attempts to turn over...but never "catches". Usually it takes two or three trys...but sometimes, on cold and wet nights it might never catch.
When the car finally does start I see/smell oil/gas out the tail pipe. After that first hard start she has little or no problem - and still manages to pass emission inspections. <g>
I have been to a few dealerships and they basically have recommended replacing the fuel injectors - but they admit they are just "guessing". And, of course, they are more than willing to guess on my dime! <g>
Has anybody run into this before? The problem is similar in nature to a Mazada problem my better half had years ago that turned out to be an ignitor problem...but the dealerships nay-say that idea.
I would rather not play "replace-da-parts" game...and I've already be stranded twice...so does anybody have any suggestions?
driven2perl "only wish she handled better in snow...and could take a supercharger!"
#122 of 812 Speakers and Rocking Seat
Dec 11, 2000 (3:03 am)
1. Regarding the Cracklie random playing speaker. My problem started with one speaker, the back rt. then spread to the rt. front. Sometimes the system would work fine for a week, and then the problem returned. As I mentioned before, the problem was the Bose Power Amp behind the back seat. Once replaced with a Phoenix Gold Amplifier, the speakers were fine.
2. The Rocking Seat. For the 1991 model, the service Bulletin is 92017R Date 93/01 NHTSA#SBO32944. If you need a list of other yrs, go to www.nhtsa.org Look for "Safety Problems & Issues, then go to Tech Service Bulletins. There is a wealth of information available from NHTSA.
Dec 11, 2000 (4:20 pm)
As a former Rx-7 owner, I believe that the problem that you are referring to was a fairly common "flooding" problem caused by the fuel injection system. A manual fix to this situation is to remove the fuse for you fuel injection and crank the engine for about five seconds (burning off any excess fuel). Replace the fuse and it should fire up easily. Should you find this method to be a huge pain, you can also get a mechanic to hard-wire a switch (mounted on or under your dash) to break that same fuel injection circuit for about a half hour's labour and less than $5 in parts. Good luck!
Dec 11, 2000 (7:37 pm)
azsundevil: Thanks for the suggestion. I really had not though about interrupting the fuel . Rather than doing that did you ever find out the source of the problem on your RX-7 (not a GSL-SE by chance? <g>)? Was it the distored (aged) shape of the injectors - suggested by the dealerships - or something to do with flow / mix regulation that caused the hard start that then led to the flooding?
...even though the cost-benefit ratio is rather lop-sided in this case (hey, an '86 is worth ~2K on a trade-in) I would rather "fix" the problem.
Thanks for the suggestions! I may yet dance with the parts man... <g>
#125 of 812 Transmission Clunk
Dec 12, 2000 (7:47 pm)
Did any first generation model owners have a problem where the automatic transmission makes a loud clunking noise when shifting from P to R to D, when the engine is cold? Any input would be appreciated.
#126 of 812 To keep or not to keep?
Dec 16, 2000 (7:43 pm)
My 1994 Legend has 117,000 miles on it and I am starting to notice some problems occurring. It recently started shifting hard between first and second gear. The transmission fluid is fine so I don't know why that is. Also sometimes when I go to start it, the odometer needle will jump between 1 and 0 when my foot isn't even on the accelerator and smoke will come out the exhaust, then it will put-put & stall out. Immediately after I go to start it again it starts right up like it is perfect. Anyone out there had this problem and can tell me what it may be?