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Volvo S80, Sedan
#982 of 2415 Transmission hesitates ---- Mine too!
Jun 13, 2002 (3:09 pm)
I posted a few months ago (Msg #886) about the same problem with my 2002 S80 2.9 (half year model). I noticed there were a number of times as I initially accelerated there would be a jerking kind of feel to the transmission. It reminded me of a manual transmission switching gears. This doesn't happen all the time, but occasionally. It's my first Volvo, so I just figured it was the way the creature functioned. I haven't had it serviced yet since it only has about 2,600 miles on it.
I really love the car, so the one little "glitch" wasn't a big issue with me. But, I am curious to know if this is something that should be repaired by the dealer. Maybe someone else out there has some insight into this. Any salespeople from the dealerships participating on this board have any ideas on this? Thank you in advance.
#983 of 2415 Re:Tranny Hsitation
Jun 13, 2002 (6:28 pm)
This is my second Volvo I traded a 99 base S70,I wanted an S80 all along and finally got one.
I feel the same way you do about the car, this is the only thing about it that troubles me and I know from experience two drivers with different styles can "confuse" the adaptive system my S70 had a very slight problem like the one we are having with our S80's but it went away after about 1,500 miles of driving.
I'm hoping this hesitation thing will pass or can be adjusted by the dealer I have 4,200 on my S80 and plan on taking it in soon if this does not self adjust.
Let me know if you hear about what is going on and the recommended correction from a different source.
#984 of 2415 re#905 oper8m troubles with 99 S80
Jun 13, 2002 (6:47 pm)
when was your car manufactured?
Jun 14, 2002 (12:45 pm)
I have to say, I'm surprised by some of the things I'm reading here. I'm on the road 35,000 mi/year and have driven almost everything, and I have to say my S80 T6 is the best so far. Nothing more than regular maintenance; I do have to admit I thought the 30K check was a bit pricey.
There have been 2 right head lamps replaced under warranty (I bought the car with 10,800 mi on it). I do notice that until it warms up (which is quickly), it does tend to hesitate when the accelerator is pressed - but that's the only time it hesitates - it's a rocket otherwise.
Great fuel economy for the performance, the dealer has been terrific, actually spoiling me.
I make my living out of my vehicles and they get used and taken care of, not just driven back and forth to an office, or the store, or something like that. The last Volvo I had was a 1975 240 DL...this is a very nice change.
#986 of 2415 You too, Happy Owner?
Jun 15, 2002 (8:51 pm)
It also sounds like your car is doing that transmission hesitation number upon initial hesitation. I usually notice it when the car is just starting out in the morning and I'm just getting going down the street. Just for a moment the transmission is thinking. After that, all is smooth driving. The acceleration on the car is terrific! You all know what I'm talking about. I also noticed that palting in Msg #943 has a similar sounding happening with his transmission, but it sounds as if he has remedied it with full auto on the way back.
Happy & Safe Volvoing everyone!
Jun 15, 2002 (9:14 pm)
The shifting hesitation everyone is talking about is VERY normal when the car is first warming up in the morning. If this is the only time the car 'hesitates', then everything is fine. The hesitation is a combination of the turbos being cold and the car's emission control system adjusting the shifts to heat up the catalytic converter faster. A catalytic converter is not effective until it is VERY hot, and a car's emissions are incredibly high for the first few miles after startup, so the transmission is told to hold RPMs higher for the first few minutes to help get the systems operating more quickly. Many cars do this, some are just more pronounced in their execution of it than others. Many Mercedes owners have this same complaint. If you are still unsure, by all means discuss it with your service advisor or the shop tech.
#988 of 2415 S80 Reliability
Jun 16, 2002 (1:50 pm)
What is the consensus of the knowledgeable folks on this board regarding the "recent" stats on reliability? I know '00 and '01 had serious issues. Have these been corrected in mid-latter '02?
#989 of 2415 Re: tranny issue
Jun 16, 2002 (3:17 pm)
Thanks for the feedback with regard to this concern about the tranny hesitation issue and I say concern rather than use the word "problem" because from my vantage point it really is not a problem just a concern about how my S80 sometimes performs.
This is my second Volvo and I love my S80.
I say this to make clear for anyone seeking advice before purchasing a Volvo I highly recommend the brand.
That having been said...
My S80 is a 2.9 non turbo,correct me if I'm wrong but the warm-up explaination probably would not apply here in addition I think the Turbo models have a different tranny in them. The Turbo model I test drove had a manual override feature the 2.9 does not, so none of the reasons given apply to my 2.9 model.
I'm taking it in next week I'll give an update on what the service techs at my Volvo dealership Taylor Volvo Gainesville Fl.
(great service BTW) have to say.
Thanks to all,
Jun 16, 2002 (11:15 pm)
The issues regarding warm-up do apply to the 2.9 engine. Having the turbochargers does increase the feel of the hesitation because at 2000 RPMs the chargers effect kicks in and gives a dramatic surge when the engine is cold, this mellows as the engine heats up. The transmissions on the 2.9 and the T6 (incidentally, for 2002 the T6 is now 2.9 liters also) are the same, with the T6 simply having the shift control feature available to the driver. Both cars engine management systems are programmed to hold higher RPMs when the engine is cold to help boost the catalytic converter temperature which increases its effectiveness against emissions. These functions can feel 'weird' on today's cars as more and more computers are used to adjust fuel input and to monitor emissions. Please write back to let us know what you find out at your service.
#991 of 2415 Martins Volvo in Manhattan
Jun 18, 2002 (9:12 am)
has anyone had any good/bad experiences with Martin? thanks!