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Volvo S80, Sedan
#775 of 2415 Engine vibration at idle
Nov 14, 2001 (6:52 am)
I have a 2001 2.9 with approximately 4200 miles. If I do not use the car for several days, the engine idles like a 1 or 2 cylinder diesel for less than 1 minute after startup. I used to have a 1998 S70 that did the same thing.
Other than that, it is difficult to determine if the engine is running or not when idling. It is the smoothest idling engine I have ever owned. There is no vibration whatsoever.
I have found that the Volvo dealers in my area try to avoid warrantee work. A quick review of some of the factory service bulletins explains why. Volvo typically only reimburses the dealer for less than half of the actual labor time required.
Whenever I have had a problem (with either the S70 of S80), response from the dealer after the first visit is always " we cannot duplicate the problem". Once you make a second visit and demonstrate the problem, the response changes to "they all do this" (in other words - it is a normal feature). The final step is to drive one of the cars in dealer inventory, to prove that not all samples have the problem, or, to do some research and find a technical bulletin pertaining to the issue. Only then will the dealer relent and attempt an actual repair. The approach of forcing multiple visits to solve simple (and known) problems is an attempt to discourage you. You should try to bypass a step by immediately asking them to demonstrate to you any car in their inventory with the same "normal" idle.
Nov 14, 2001 (4:42 pm)
just curious, where do you live? Sorry to hear you get that kind of "service"....
#777 of 2415 Engine vibration
Nov 14, 2001 (9:10 pm)
Rhode Island. But I found similar tactics employed by a nearby Massachusetts dealer. I can sympathize with them. Example: Volvo allows 0.6 hours to repair the infamous steering "knock" prevalent on the S60, S80, and new V70. To do it right, it is a 2-3 hour job. So the dealer gets to pay his technician for 3 hours and gets reimbursed by Volvo for less than one. Is it any wonder they are not particularly enthusiastic about performing warrantee work?
Nov 15, 2001 (10:12 am)
The DRLs are at 90% Intensity IIRC.
And they can be switched off by the dealer using VADIS.
The feature you saw is called "HomeSafe Lighting" Its' on all 99+ Volvos..
They should have showed you that one at delivery!
#780 of 2415 2001 S80 DRL
Nov 15, 2001 (11:24 am)
"HomeSafe" lighting is described in the Owners Manua, but is easy to miss (just one sentence). On my S80, the lights under the mirrors come on as well. I like it better than some of the fully automatic systems, because you can easily choose to activate it or not each time you exit the car.
I have the factory wiring manual for the 2001 S80. For USA cars, the headlights are operated by a relay and there is no DRL module. The headlights can only be On or Off. There is no change in intensity with different positions of the headlamp switch. Note that the tail lights and marker lights all stay on during the day as well.
#782 of 2415 DRL intensity; fuel mileage
Nov 15, 2001 (4:15 pm)
It probably doesn't matter. I doubt if you could see the difference between 90% and 100% (a ratio of 1.1 to 1) in the daytime. Given that the system voltage varies (at least) between 12.8V and 14V, lamp power (for a constant resistance), and therefore intensity, will vary 1.2 to 1 just under different operating conditions.
I do not have a T6, so can't help much there. WIth a mix of 50%-50% city/highway, I average 21.6 MPG. Lowest/highest I have measured between fuel refills is 18.9 and 27 (200 mile trip). These values are based on odometer and gas pump readings, not the "message center". I use 35 pounds air pressure all around with the 225-50/17 tires. The fact that you say "smooth and powerful" implies that the turbo must be wound up at least once in a while. I have to settle for "smooth and adequate". I would get into trouble with a T6.
#783 of 2415 timing belt problem
Nov 15, 2001 (7:26 pm)
I just finished reading about the timimg belt problem that 7630 had and was shocked. We are going through the same problem now. The car broke down two days ago and the dealer said that we must have hit something that forced an air intake tube into the serpentine belt which disturbed the timing belt which jumped tracks and bent the valves and cyliders. He says that we should claim the $3400 bill on our insurance. This must be a major flaw in the car. He said it was one in a million chance. After reading the other post I know that it has happened to someone else. I asked for a Volvo rep to come out and see the damage today and he ruled that it was our fault and that this was not a design or warranty issue. Someone please help!!!
Nov 15, 2001 (7:51 pm)
Might be the first time I have heard about it on a Volvo S80..
But I have heard of it happening on other cars with timing belts (Alfa 164s as an example.. happend to a friend of mine's 164Q.. That's a 32Valve Italian engine.. can you say $6,500!?)
I'd contact your insurance co.. I know that State Farm bought an Alfa Engine last year..