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Volvo S80, Sedan
#1727 of 2415 Re: S80 transmission manufacturer [dboyd]
Dec 06, 2004 (7:58 pm)
I have a 1999 s80. I wish I had seen this site before, would love to have known if the throttle cleaning was my problem. Bought it in Novemebr 2002. In shop 9 times in 6 months with power drop off, eventually replaced intake manifold, only slight improvement. Just replaced throttle body, as well as, front sway bars twice, strut mount front drivers, both rear struts, brake booster, sunroof need replacing, bumper loosened off twice, engine mount broke off, and the list goes on.
Buy another one - only with a death wish. Volvo denied any service bulletins ever issues for any of these problems. Not true.
#1728 of 2415 Re: Any news or rumours of a redesigned S80? [heywood1]
Dec 07, 2004 (11:00 pm)
I wouldn't be so shortsighted if I were you.
So far, Fords "beancounters" haven't come anywhere near Volvo.
The new S40 is the first fruit of the Volvo Ford partership and its arguably the best driving and handling Volvo ever.
Its also cheaper than the 1993 Volvo 240 was in real dollars.
The current S80 is a nice car, but out of date by modern standards.
I would also direct your attention to the new Jaguar XJ, 100% Jaguar and no skimping from the beancounters.
#1729 of 2415 Re: Any news or rumours of a redesigned S80? [volvomax]
Dec 07, 2004 (11:30 pm)
I agree, so far Ford's influence was only for better. I could add that a world awarded roll-over protection system was designed by Ford's affiliate Continental Teves.
#1730 of 2415 Re: Any news or rumours of a redesigned S80? [volvomax]
Dec 08, 2004 (1:45 pm)
Point taken about the XJ; I'd be proud to own one. But I would direct YOUR attention to the X-type. The dash and switches look like that of any Ford you might rent from Hertz, and is one of many reasons why a $5,000 drop in MSRP was needed to help move these turds.
I have been told that part of the acquisition agreement prohibits Fords from sharing bits with Volvos (I'm paraphrasing) for ten years, but allows the opposite. So if this is true--and when the ten years is up--I believe the bean counters at Ford won't be able to help themselves. They need to make up the losses from Jaguar somewhere.
#1731 of 2415 Re: Any news or rumours of a redesigned S80? [heywood1]
Dec 08, 2004 (4:26 pm)
I have been told that part of the acquisition agreement prohibits Fords from sharing bits with Volvos (I'm paraphrasing) for ten years, but allows the opposite.
I do not think it is true. The C1 platform (Ford/Mazda/Volvo) is a true shared technology. I just do not believe that Ford will deliberately hurt them self by not trusting the Volvo design team which knows how to build large sedans. So far we can see the opposite - all Ford new large sedans and cross - overs are Volvo-based.
#1732 of 2415 Re: All new Ford large sedans are Volvo-based [lev_berkovich]
Dec 08, 2004 (9:08 pm)
True. But my point is that I believe no new Volvos will be FORD based for a while, due to contractual obligations. Volvo technology can only help Ford products, not vice-versa.
#1733 of 2415 Re: All new Ford large sedans are Volvo-based [heywood1]
Dec 08, 2004 (10:20 pm)
I understood your point, but my point was that the Volvo HAS based its newest models S40/V50 on a platform that is shared across three companies - Ford, Mazda and Volvo. That is why I am questioning the rumor.
#1734 of 2415 Re: Any news or rumours of a redesigned S80? [lev_berkovich]
Dec 09, 2004 (9:08 am)
The next S60 is to be based on the EUCD platform, an enlarged C1/P1 derivative, the S40, in Europe, is available with the Mazda designed Duratec I4 engine. As far as I recall, the acquisition agreement had more to do with keeping Ford out of Volvo's management and labour practices than stopping technology and parts sharing, technology and parts sharing was one of the reasons for the merger on both sides.
#1735 of 2415 question for owners
Dec 12, 2004 (3:34 pm)
I'm currently considering replacing my beloved S70 T5. Its been great and I do still love it, but the "luxury" part of it is kind of wearing thin. What I mean to say is that I'd like something a bit quieter and more "solid feeling," if you know what I mean. But, at the same time, I don't want to loose the sportiness I've grown attached to.
So, anyway, I went last night and testdrove an '00 Benz E320, but didn't fall in love like I thought I would. It just didn't feel like a big enough step up from my Volvo to justify taking on payments all over again. So, what I'm here to ask is if anyone can give me an opinion as to the S80 compared to the S60 or even the S70. I've been in the S60 and didn't find it an improvement over the S70, so I think any 60 comments could apply to the 70 as well. Is the 80 a more comfortable and luxurious vehicle? I'd specifically be looking at '00 and '01 T6s. Any thoughts appreciated. I know I could obviously go track one down and give it a spin to see for myself, but if its just going to be a waste of my time, I'd rather not waste it.
#1736 of 2415 Re: question for owners [qbrozen]
Dec 12, 2004 (5:03 pm)
I just replaced my '98 S70 GLT (150,000 miles, and which I bought new), with a '00 S80 T-6. The S80 was barely used in the four years the previous owner had it (16,900 miles).
There is a big difference between the two: Increased luxury (the seats are even BETTER than those in the S70), hugely more powerful, not to mention larger and more modern interior.
As you know, the early models have some issues. Because of the low mileage, I was lucky enough to qualify for the Volvo extended warranty--despite the age of the car. I would go for an '02 or '03 T-6--preferably a dealer-certified-used--and not look back. You'll love it.
in my opinion, the S60 was too small to be an adequate replacement to the S70. Besides, EVERYBODY has a Mercedes now. And the ubiquitous late-90's E-series certainly was NOT engineered like no other car in the world.....