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#1399 of 2415 Incentives for leasing
by nbhangtfan
Nov 30, 2003 (1:02 pm)
On the S80 right now if you're credit is good you can get a very good money factor on a lease on all models. I just got an S80 T6 and the dealer was allowed to use a .004 money factor from Volvo finance.
Of course leasing does not allow you to get the current incentive if you are purchasing the car - which my dealer said was worth $7500 (continuing through December 2003).
#1400 of 2415 2.9 Acceler, ation and Volvomax Feedback
by davant
Nov 30, 2003 (9:20 pm)
Waustin2,
The 2.9 was replaced by the S-60's sportier 2.5T powertrain for the very reasons you mentioned, and as a bonus, AWD comes with it. I agree with your power assessment. We came from a 4-cyl Camry into an '04 2.9 so it's not like coming from the 'gutsier' V-6 Pontiac. It takes some getting used to and you have to be firm-footed and rev happy to get rolling quickly. It'll learn to shift based on your driving style, at least the newer ones will. The brighter side of this is you have to look at the tach to get an indication of what's going on under the hood as it's so quiet you can hardly hear it purr. Is the 2.9 underpowered, no. Silky smooth, yes. As zippy/ballsy as the 2.5T/T-6, never.
Volvomax,
I like reading your posts but we have a difference of opinion, that's OK. I got what I wanted, I'm sure you do that for plenty of customers even though your tastes differ. The Warm Weather Package window shades aren't a pain. Besides, I have yet to see tinted windows that roll down to optimize night visibility...think safety and engineered flexibility, after all, this is a Volvo. The Warm Package's UV reflective windshield is also a neat idea, probably will still use a shade though and since I only own one, can't compare exact inside temps in the blazing sun. Thank goodness our state replaces windshields for free should the need arise as I'm told it's about $800. We got Ash Gold instead of Pearl at a great price fresh off the truck. After a week of driving (not in a row) I'm not disappointed with the 2.9. Yes, the T-6 is grand, no, 5 grand, and typically appeals to 25 percent of prospective Volvo owners, that puts me in the majority and with lower payments. On-Call Plus is great peace of mind, like driving the safest car on the road needed help. We activated the built-in cell phone (via AT&T only) and although it's an older Ericsson TDMA model, it integrates flawlessly. Hands free works well, handset is there if you need utmost clarity and privacy, great sub for our handhelds. Radio volume drops when call comes in or goes out, you have caller ID, never have to take your hands off the wheel except to dial and even that can be done through memory once programmed. Again, phone integration is a safety factor. Some states require handsfree, Volvo once again engineered things the right way, bravo-Volvo! Getting the Nav system and On-Call with the phone wouldn't make sense as there'd be no excuse to call saying you were lost or couldn't find a gas station.
I haven't found one thing yet on our '04 S-80 2.9 (17's, Prem, Warm & Cold Packages, On-Call) that doesn't work logically or I would have designed differently. Great car, great price, thrilled daily.
#1401 of 2415 /direct/view/.ee9e6e3/1399
by waustin2
Dec 01, 2003 (9:32 am)
davant, Thanks for the feedback...still don't know if I can get used to watching the tach approach 4,000 RPMs. My transmission does seem to adapt to my driving habits, but when I change from highway to city (stop and go) driving it seems to take awhile to adjust. Again, not really a problem, just an observation.
#1402 of 2415 a new-be to troubled transmission -'00 S-80
by ringo6
Dec 02, 2003 (10:17 am)
Hello, I have a 2000 2.9 S80. I have scrolled through theses messages to the past two years, and am disheartened as to what may come up next for me. I am having trouble with the transmission ("shudder's" b/w 2nd & 3rd gear when accelerating fast) and have been told by a Volvo Service Tech (
Kempthorn's in Ohio) to replace a bad soleniod which altoghether costs around $900, HOWEVER!, this may or may not fix the problem, and that we may have to replace the entire transmission altogether! yea. We purchased the car
47,000 miles and it is now
55k, 5,000 over the warranty. My point..., I am not the first one for this exact same problem to happen too, therefore why not a recall; or Vovlo take care of this for me by overlooking those 5k miles since this is obviously a manufacturing fault. 55,000 miles! No car, especially a respectable one, should have any type of transmission problem under AT-LEAST 100 - 150k! Could any or all of you please respond back concerning my problem? Misery loves company, and I'd like to hear how you hashed through it. Thank You.
#1403 of 2415 re troubled tranny
by volvomax
Dec 02, 2003 (4:16 pm)
I take it you didn't buy a warranty or extended service contract.
Probably should have.
If the cars history shows the same problem while the car was under warranty Volvo may goodwill the repair. Otherwise your on your own.
Volvo promises to repair defects for 4 yrs or 50,000 miles, not 55,000. Regardless of your expectations.
#1404 of 2415 Pay now or Pay Later, Extendend Warranties Are Often Worthwhile
by davant
Dec 02, 2003 (8:27 pm)
I'm not surprised some folks expect a time/mileage warranty to be extended. Like Volvomax said, if the problem is well documented under warranty on YOUR vehicle, Volvo may help you out. My guess is at best they'll cover 50 percent of parts, probably no labor. I agree there was a trend but no recall was in order. All that should have been addressed before your Odo reached 50K, if not, all bets are off. Keep in mind the previous owners may have had 47K tranny trouble-free miles. The trans should last 200K+ but the '00 MY had problems that haven't been totally resolved even in the '04's.
As we all know, modern cars are very expensive to repair thus some genius came up with an extended warranty to pay for what shouldn't fail in the first place. I'm wasn't a believer in them until I got one for a '96 Caddi with 40K on it that we helped my mother-in-law buy (worth >50 bonus points) that was $1,900 up to 75K miles through GM. It was wrecked this year with 76K on it, (a drunk with 9 previous DUI convictions hit her!) and I checked with GM to see what it paid out. In 35K miles it paid $4,600 so even with $50 deductibles it more than paid for itself twice. I know that's off subject but the point is in most cases the darn things are worth it, even on a well-built Volvo where an accumulator or A/C repair can easily top a grand according to one savvy service manager whom I prodded anonymously.
Wanting peace of mind, I took out the Volvocare 7 year 100K mile zero deductible warranty and paid over three grand for it on our '04 S-80. That's outrageous unless you consider in four years I'll never be in Ringo's position of shelling out nearly a thousand clams to troubleshoot or several more for a new tranny. Call me a fool but it's like rolling dice, time will tell, I'm no longer a gambler.
If all else fails Ringo you may find a third party company that will offer a limited albeit expensive plan that might cover this and future problems. I hope no one from one of those companies reads this post, LOL.
#1405 of 2415 The Kicker
by ringo6
Dec 03, 2003 (6:43 am)
Thank you for rour response. The real kicker of it all though, is last night while rummaging through me head, I'm pretty sure I noticed that shudder not too long after we bought the car (i.e. before 50k turned), I..., yes, I let it go. I didn't think it was anything much worth of a worry, plus my wife drives it every day, so I just didn't pay attention to it and forgot about it. I only found out about it when I took it to a Volvo tech to replace a bad emission control sensor, and they hooked it up to the computer and found the bad soleniod/possibly tranny. This could have been covered! I was too ignorant to realize this wasn't right, possibly even serious! And no I don't believe there is any history of this problem somewhere because... wait for the other kicker!... we bought the car off of a non-certified volvo dealer, and they told us nothing was wrong with it. So go ahead, everybody slap me at once!
#1406 of 2415 No Slapping Zone
by davant
Dec 04, 2003 (3:35 am)
Ringo,
Poor you. I understand what you mean about overlooking a small problem if you're not the regular driver, or thinking you heard something and not making time to check it out. Recommend you try the third party extended warranty, cheers.
#1407 of 2415 Snow and Ice Removal
by waustin2
Dec 05, 2003 (1:20 pm)
What is the best tool for removing snow without scratching the finish? I have one of those ice scraper/brush combo things, but I'm not sure if the synthetic (plastic) bristles are safe for the Volvo's finish. Thanks.
#1408 of 2415 Volvo Snowcone
by davant
Dec 06, 2003 (9:47 pm)
Waustin2,
Brrrr, bet you reeeeally need this right now. When I lived in MD for 19 years we used brooms, the really soft angled ones work good on unmelted snow and you can hack off the handle to your liking. I had some success with one of those California car dusters but the snow sticks. The bristle/scrapers were meant for windshields mostly so you're right in not creating scratch racing stripes. In fact it's not a good idea to use anything to remove ice or melted snow from a painted surface (besides heat) because even if the removal device won't damage the finish, the ice can. First choice is of course a garage or a long warm-up but I'm sure somebody will say extended idling is bad. If you go that route you may want to lock up and use two sets of keys so it doesn't disappear. Just my $.02 worth...have you considered moving South?