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#731 of 1489 Finally Placed the Order
Aug 08, 2001 (12:57 pm)
Yippee! My husband and I finally placed our order for the 2002 model Prius. It won't be delivered until December/January. We first started looking at the Prius back in September 2000 but I really couldn't find much information or reviews about it .. that is until I found this site. I must say that reading these reviews provided much more information than I was able to get from my dealer. I live in Northern Virginia and my dealer only had a 2001 model on the lot. I stopped in about 2 months ago and took it for a test drive and LOVED it. The brakes took a little getting used to but overall I was very impressed. At that time he didn't know when the 2002 was due out or what, if any, additional features/options it would have. I stopped in only 3 weeks ago and here the 2002 model was available. I ordered it with all the extras including the NAV system. I really would have liked to touchy/feely see how the NAV systems operates but this particular dealership didn't expect to have a 2002 demo in until September. All he was able to provide is a brochure on the NAV. I agree with MrGreenJeans, Toyota really needs to step up the marketing and advertising on this car. I told a co-worker about it and she is thinking about placing an order too. This is going to be a big switch for us. We currently drive a gas guzzeling Ford Explorer. We get almost 18 to the gallon, which is pretty good for an SUV, but the monthly gas bills are out of control. I will miss my big cup holders, 6-CD pop-out changer, and leather seats but the "greeness" of the Prius outweights the creature comforts of my SUV. Does anyone out there have a 2002 model or comment on the NAV system?
Aug 08, 2001 (1:51 pm)
Toyota loses money on every one of these they sell [consider it an R & D expense against sales 10 years down the line when half their production could be hybrid], and moreover, can't keep up with demand as it is. So, why should they spend much more money on marketing and promotion? Nothing worse than getting people excited about a car they can't have...I think the current level of advertising and public awareness seems about right. Can't imagine what they would do if demand suddenly went up by 50%.
Honda will be offering the Civic in 6 months in our market with a CVT and hybrid drivetrain; unlike the Insight, which is too specialized to be of general interest, the hybrid Civic should be a real test of the general size of the market. While Honda's costs for the Civic will be slightly lower, they too will be bleeding cash with every sale they make. When that stops being true, then we know the technology will truly be ready for prime time...
#733 of 1489 phideaux
Aug 08, 2001 (3:25 pm)
There are no plans at this time to make a NAV system be retrofit to the 2001 cars. It would really be costly... far more costly than buying an aftermarket GPS for certain.
#734 of 1489 Improved Performance/Etc...
Aug 08, 2001 (3:46 pm)
Since my long trip to the Mid West/Southeast, it seems as though the car's power has greatly improved. I don't feel as though I am doing anything differently, yet the car seems to have more "get up and go" than previously. My gas mileage continues to be an impressive 51.7 mpg. Momentum is crucial to improved gas mileage. It takes a bit of gas to move the car from a dead stop, but once it moves forward up to a specified speed limit, the actual momentum gained by the car aids its gas mileage. Also, coasting greatly improves gas mileage. If I see a stop light, stop sign or stop and go traffic ahead, I do not apply the gas until I MUST stop, but rather coast to a stop. I am hopeful that the gas mileage will be better this upcoming winter compared to last winter, where I averaged 38 mpg. I have heard of improvements yet to come to the Prius and other "green" cars that will make this generation of hybrids seem like gas guzzlers. The critical piece here is competition. The more Prius' sold, the more other car makers will race to put out their version of a hybrid car. This will force Toyota to make more improvements with competitive prices. Perhaps it is capitalism that will repair the very environment it has carelessly abused. As a society, perhaps we are growing up...just a little. Take care Prius People. KEEP IT GREEN!
#735 of 1489 Armrest- new
Aug 08, 2001 (4:34 pm)
Just got done ordering a nice armrest for my ECHO. Saw the website-
www.husco.com- over on the Insight board and even suggested to them
to make one for the Prius. They replied that they haven't gotten a
lot of inquiries so far as opposed to the fast sales for the Insight.
Reminded them there are a lot of Prius owners and at least as good a
market as with the Insight. If you you like their products after
visiting the website, e-mail their customer support and tell them to
make one for the Prius, please.
#736 of 1489 Extended Warranty
Aug 08, 2001 (4:37 pm)
Is anyone getting the extended warranty with the Prius? I know that the hybrid system has a 8yr/100k mile warranty, but what about the other parts? I know that they have the 3yr/36k standard warranty.
#737 of 1489 Don in Nashville...
Aug 08, 2001 (7:15 pm)
Thats a great little feature. Thanks! I did email them and reaquest they look into a higher, better armrest for Prius. I also ordered the one for the 2000 Echo (my little commute car). Great link. Thanks.
#738 of 1489 Manonash- Hi pitched noise
Aug 10, 2001 (1:00 pm)
I too have heard a high pitched noise ever since I picked up the vehicle. No body else seems to hear it. I am atuned to it so I hear it quite often and I can be driving at low speeds when I do hear it. I can only assume it is part of the mechanics and the electrical stuff. I have no idea what it relates too and no one can give me a good answer because they don't hear it.
#739 of 1489 My only beef
Aug 22, 2001 (3:55 pm)
Love my '01 Prius. BUT am not pleased with highway handling. Steering wheel does not return to center in slow turns. It doesn't hold a straight line and persists running off center. It is prone to lose tracking with wind and irregular road surfaces.
Could this be a caster set up situation? The car handles like a dream in town, quick and easy steering, tight radius. Could this mean caster is 180 degrees to produce light steering at the expense of tracking ability on the road?
Consumer Reports says handlling is "vague"
My dealer service dep't checked tire pressure. No other fix or recommendation.
I repeat, I love my Prius!
#740 of 1489 Darty handling...
Aug 23, 2001 (4:31 am)
...is most likely due to the narrow, hard tires that are used on this car [and similarly, the Honda Insight] to minimize fuel consumption. They help in this respect, but hurt when it comes to straight-line tracking.