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#225 of 1489 GPS and the Prius
Aug 15, 2000 (2:09 pm)
After reading all the postings in this listing, there were some that believe that the LCD screen on the dashboard can be used in the future for GPS. According to the live chat on Toyota.com, my dealer and Cliff (who runs this board), the 2001 model will NOT be compatible with GPS. It will not be able to be upgraded.
I find this unacceptable. I've been told to wait until the 2002 model. Frustrating!
#226 of 1489 Don't give me too much credit
Aug 15, 2000 (3:45 pm)
I started this topic but Edmunds runs it. Actually, you will note that I would be surprised if the 2001 couldn't be retrofitted with the GPS. I know this is not the official line but I have a threoy about that. The PR people are not technical people. They know a lot but if it is not in their notes, they may not really know. I have spoken to Toyota PR people who don't even know what GPS stands for, let alone the difference between a DVD based system and a marine grade system.
Toyota engineers built the car with the map and display buttons for a reason. It is reasonable to assume that the reason is because they intend to make the GPS available. If your purchase of the car depends on this, don't buy the 2001. If it is just a want or hope, sign up now while you still can.
The other thing to consider is the cost. DVD based systems run between $1800 and $2700 right now. Simple marine grade systems with mapping cost around $400. It is reasonable to assume the factory system would come in near the $2000 mark. That is not chump change.
#227 of 1489 GPS and cost
Aug 15, 2000 (5:46 pm)
That pricing you gave for GPS helps the decision-making process. I thought that the resale on the 2001 model without GPS couldn't compete with the future models that have it as standard equipment. However, if they price it $2,000 above the current cost - the 2001 model can be competitive.
#228 of 1489 GPS and Cost
Aug 18, 2000 (12:36 pm)
1. Per Priusman, GPS will indeed cost about $2,000 when it is available. This sounds right as the option cost the same amount in our Odyssey and even more in my 540i.
2. Tucson, where I live, isn't digitized yet onto GPS maps, so the absence of the GPS option isn't so significant to me. With all the other cool things going on in this car, there will still be lots of tech-stuff to play with and show off.
3. I'm still wondering whether after-market GPS, DVD/TV and internet screens can be added to the Prius display. Time will tell.
#229 of 1489 Prius and IRS Code Section 30
Aug 20, 2000 (1:21 am)
In order to get a tax credit for an alternative energy vehicle, according to my accountant, the vehicle must be primarily powered drawing current from rechargable batteries. Only if you can get Toyota to put this in writing - that the car is primarily powered by current from recharable batteries - then you get the credit. If not - no credit is available.
The website states primarily powered by the battery only during acceleration. All other times, the motor is used or the gas engine and battery work in tandem. It will be hard to prove that the Prius is "primarily powered by current from rechargable batteries."
#230 of 1489 Edmund's certificate
Aug 22, 2000 (1:44 am)
I received my Prius on August 16. Most of my driving was on I-10 and I averaged about 50 mpg over 375 miles. Although I have held the speed down to 60 mph as directed, I have had no problems with inadequate acceleration.
My dealer ( he is the same dealer who serves the most prolific correspondent on this page)adamantly refused to accept my Edmund's certificate. When I called the seller of the certificate, they connected me with the lawyer who handled the case. He told me what to tell the dealer but said that he could not get involved. When I called the dealer, nobody in upper management was available and I was told to leave a message on the voice mail. That evening, after getting no response, I sent them an email saying the same thing. Up to now no response. Today I called the CCC, who again connected me to the lawyer's office, but he wasn't in. As of now, I think that I will be lucky to get my $50 back. I do not intend to either waste a lot of time calling the dealer and lawyers or get involved in a lawsuit over $100.
#231 of 1489 Prius Tax Incentive
Aug 22, 2000 (2:57 am)
If you e-mail Toyota at priuspeoplesupport.com they will send a e-mail stating that the Prius is entitled to a tax deduction of up to $2,000 for Prius purchases completed on or before December 31, 2001
#232 of 1489 RE: Any body actually got his/her prius?
Aug 22, 2000 (10:07 am)
I ordered my Prius early July and was told delivery would be mid-August. Then I was told it won't be for two to three months - and the dealer can't give me a specific date. Then the dealer was going to charge me above advertised MSRP, but he backed down from that after I pointed out the price Toyota was advertising.
Frustrating to say the least!!!
#233 of 1489 Sheine: Edmunds Certificate
Aug 22, 2000 (12:44 pm)
Sheine, please email me about that Edmunds certificate (include a number where I can reach you) and we will get to the bottom of this! See my profile for my address.
Aug 22, 2000 (5:42 pm)
I want to clear one thing up. You indicated that your dealership "is the same dealer who serves the
most prolific correspondent on this page". I assume you meant me as I have not seen any other dealers post here with any regularity. Alexandria Toyota has always accepted these coupons and would never jeopardize our legal standing on the class action settlement over $150. I checked our delivery log and didn't see your name so must assume that you are having this problem with somebody other than us. A little clarification would be appreciated on this issue.