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#1442 of 2502 Camry vs. Galant
Feb 05, 2004 (1:04 pm)
2004 Galant is definitely quite comparable to the Camry. It also exceeds it in many ways yet it hasn't been a hit with the public yet for many reasons...
I personally hated the horrible rear visibility, questioned the quality of the interior, and the high initial price. You should also consider the slowly but surely disappearing dealer network and the expensive "timing belt/water pump/some other belt" service every 60K miles. I'm not completely positive here but I believe Camry's engine has the chain. The cost of this necessary service does add up if you drive a lot and/or keep your cars for a long time.
If you can get some nice discounts right now or wait for them to inevitably appear in a couple of months, it's definitely a nice car to consider.
The biggest plus for this car and any other 2004 Mitsubishi right now is the super-long powertrain warranty (10/100K). I considered a Diamante once but the lack of side airbags to me is unacceptable. Outlanders are nice, sell cheap, and got more HPs this year.
I'd like to check out 2004 Montero LTDs whenever they come to the States (if at all) - those things are bulletproof, though VERY thirsty, and if they can sell for ~$28K like the 2003s, I will go for one myself.
Feb 05, 2004 (3:33 pm)
That dealer is feeding you false info. The Endeavor and Pacifica share nothing. The Endeavor is based off the Galant platform and uses Mitsubishi engines and trannys. The Pacifica is a modified Chrysler minivan platform and uses Chrysler engines and trannys. Neither have any ties to Daimler-Benz.
As far as other Mitsu sedans, you might want to look into a Diamante, if you can find one. They are quite scarce (only 10k sold a year, which leads to exclusivity and is one of the attractions of the car). The Diamante is more a traditional luxury car whereas the Galant is a sporty car. Rebates on the 03 models was 4k, which brings a 29k fully equipped car down to 25k without even haggling. It's definitely a nice riding, quiet, powerful car, but is a completely different flavor from the Galant.
Feb 05, 2004 (4:44 pm)
New Diamantes can be had as low as 18k utilizing customer loyalty discounts.
Galant is attractive as its larger, has full frame windows, and more room and power.
The Diamante is a nice alternative to the domestic midsizers and for those who want a car like A Camry Accord but don't want one specifically.
But its way dated.....it is what it is. I get compliments on my Diamante as being nice and elegant even if it is a dinosaur. It comes off classier than the bottom feeder products available from others (insert largest mfr here) for the same or less money.
Galant is competitive in every way with the others out there. Styling's a bit dull and back seat don't fold but otherwise it makes a car like the Mali-fish look like bad news.
Feb 06, 2004 (6:55 am)
Are you saying the mitsubishi is better than camry? How is its traction in snow? That's one reason I'm looking at endeavor. I've been told that mitsubishis are expensive to repair. A mechanic told me, when he orders parts, mitsubishi parts are very high priced. I'm across the street from a mitsubishi, chrysler, jeep, dodge dealer. So I've seen many cars! But the mitsibishi service dept gets 85 dollars and hour in labor! So it leads me to believe he's right. Have you experienced this in your area. I'm in ny. Its snowing now. Wish I had the endeavor this morning! Tomorrow maybe not!
#1446 of 2502 the commercial
Feb 06, 2004 (7:36 pm)
I finally saw the Galant vs. Camry handling commercial. Very impressive the way Mitsubishi chose to pit its sporting Galant against the luxury Camry (without its optional stability assist system, as well). Perhaps Toyota should do a Camry SE w/ stability vs Galant LS V6 and see what happens then.
Really, I lost a degree of respect for Mitsubishi, given the clear lack of parity. Show me a Camry XLE V6 vs a Galant LS V6, or show me a GTS V6 vs a Camry SE V6.
Im not saying the Camry is a sports sedan or that its right for everybody, I'm just saying the adverstising should be fair.
PS- and what about the Altima 3.5SE, the Accord EX V6, etc. I guess the Galant wasnt up to that task, just as it seems Mitsu didnt want to risk running with the Camry SE................
Feb 07, 2004 (7:58 am)
Seems to me, camrys and altimas are you saying are better than the new galant? Worth the extra 3 to 5k?
Feb 07, 2004 (8:37 am)
Take it for what its worth. I made comments regarding the advertising campaign of Mitsubishi, and the handling capabilities of several vehicles, including the Camry and Altima. I never made any comment about overall quality or execution of the vehicles. When I test drove the Galant ES 4 cyl in December, indeed, I felt it was a good vehicle but not up to the levels of the class leaders. I posted a very detailed critique at that time, and am not about to rehash my comments today.
But in answer to your question, I feel the Galant gives up a significant amount in terms of resale, safety features, efficiency, and convenience items (no folding rear seat in the family segment???!!). If you're looking for something different, the Galant is a good find. If you're looking for the best in class, I dont think this Galant is it.
PS- the difference between the Galant GTS V6 and a Camry SE V6 with the exact same equipment (and stability control to boot!) is $1200 MSRP, not the $3000 to $5000 you cite. (Id recommend checking out the recent edmunds.com comparo if you dont believe me about pricing).
#1450 of 2502 brian211
Feb 07, 2004 (8:38 am)
i had 2 galants and a mitsu mirage.
you can say i'm quite loyal to mitsu and that's because i saw value and i went beyond the usual reliability recommendations and i can tell you that when i had those mitsubishi's, i was truly pleased.
the cars were solid, smooth and dead reliable.
they're just as dependable as the other japanese nameplates.
and they're not 1 out of every 4 cars out there.
sure i have heard horror stories about other mitsu owners...but i have heard the same for other honda/toyota owners.
i have friends who had problematic toyotas and hondas. (and of all other carmakes...)
i had a rental 03 camry just two days ago and my friend drives an 03 altima which i get to ride quite often too.
i can tell you that they are all in the same league.
with camry, you get nice(er) materials inside, and that vaunted toyota reputation.
but the drive is well, not fun, a little boring if you ask me. (isolated, numb, detached feeling -which should be perfect for some)
and while driving that car, every third or fourth car i encountered was well, a camry - it's the best selling car after all.
you decide if that's worth the price difference.
and i didn't feel it was as well put together as the previous generation camry which my sister has.
the altima has the VQ V6 engine that's voted one of the best engines in the world.
the interior however leaves a lot to be desired.
materials and fit and finish in the interior
were better in previous nissans.
the ride is stiff if you get the V6.
(what my friend has).
it's a nice looking car though.
what the galant seems to lack is the enviable reputation for fit and finish that toyotas and hondas have. but the galant is solid nonetheless.
i even think the materials inside the galant
are better than that in the altima's.
(and if you ask me which japanese car has the best interior - it would be the honda accord, but i digress).
Feb 07, 2004 (10:37 am)
Does the Camry offer a sport tuned version like the Mitsu has with the GTS. Motor Trend had an XLE and the GTS beat it out. But all comparos are 1/2 based on personal opinion and choice. The other 1/2 performance test data which is subjective also. Another thing some of us are not that concerned with resale value. It's important but not something that I would put high on my list. critics not liking the extior, interior design of a car that is purely 100% opinion, and according to Edmunds that was were the GTS suffered, from someone's personal opinion. I would agree that the Accord is the absolute best in class, but some of us dare to be different. I don't need to have navigation, XM, and i can count on one hand the number of times I've folded down my rear seats on my last three cars: 96 Elantra, 99 Elantra, and 2002 Sonata but I was looking for a different type of car, and the GTS did it for me. I'm up to 1389 miles and having a ball driving it. Here in NY we've had snow, ice, floods, and all types of stuff and so far my GTS has done well. And one final note can you really go wrong by purchasing any of these cars: Accord EX V6, 3.5 SE, XLE, or the Mazda 6, and my fave the GTS. It's like having to choose between a M5, E55,or RS6, A matter of preference. P.S pricing is also subjective depending on where you are!