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#962 of 4457 Passenger Seat in 2001 Grand Prix
Jul 17, 2001 (8:51 am)
I'd like to ask if anyone has a suggestion about how to change the pitch of the 2001 Grand Prix passenger seat. Pontiac offers power, lumbar support, heat, etc. for the driver's seat but nothing for the passenger's seat. People that have riden with me complain the pitch of the seat is too low. Are there comfort cushions or something available in the market I could offer to passengers?
#963 of 4457 redbeta
Jul 17, 2001 (9:38 am)
I didn't get the lumbar support in my Grand Prix and if I drive 20 minutes or so it gives my back fits! I have a lumbar roll that I bought that works so-so. You may be able to find one at a medical supplies shop. I bought mine from the Physical Therapy Dept. at the local hospital. I don't know if you could walk into a hospital and buy one like that or not without being a patient.
If you find something better than what I suggested, could you post back here to let me know.
#964 of 4457 Acceleration Problem
Jul 18, 2001 (12:15 pm)
JEWEL47 - check post 774, this happened to me a few months ago. I think they reprogrammed the PCM, but I'm not so sure they did anything. It hasn't happened since, but I've been afraid to 'floor it' since.
1998 Grand Prix GTP
Had heated seat unit replaced
No other problems.
#965 of 4457 Passenger Seat in 2001 Grand Prix
Jul 18, 2001 (12:33 pm)
Thanks for the suggestion. I don't think it is a lumbar issue with my passengers. The angle of the back of the seat is too low vs the front of the seat. People complain about feeling like they are sitting in a hole. I need some type of a short, wedge type pillow as an option for passengers to sit on.
All the reviews I have read talk about the support and comfort of the GP seats. I guess the reviewer only sat in the driver's seat.
If I hear of a lumbar solution, I'll let you know.
#966 of 4457 redbeta
Jul 18, 2001 (6:19 pm)
Good luck on finding a pillow for your passenger seat. I knew when I bought my car that I was going to have a problem with the lumbar support but I'll eventually get it worked out.
#967 of 4457 The Grand Prix experience so far...
Jul 18, 2001 (8:37 pm)
We're still enjoying this car - it seems solid, has plenty of power and is quite comfortable for the 4 of us. We're getting decent mileage - but nowhere near as good as we get with the Bonneville but the GP gets mostly 2nd car driving from us (a lot of short haul stuff but some parallel commuting too) and it is not yet broken in - going on 2 months of ownership and we've just past the 1000 mile mark!
Things we like about the GP: All the important, major things like Style, interior volume and comfort, back-seat room, trunk volume, finish, quality of fabric, carpet, etc. Plus, we prefer the sound system to the one in our Bonneville (our GP has the equalizer). Even little things like the overhead console seem better thought out than the one in our Bonnie. Of course, the really big things are there in spades: nice, useable power (esp. torque) and smooth, effortless shifts.
Things we don't like: Not much actually. The dashboard/instrument panel uses flimsier plastics than I'd like to see - it's especially noticeable on the ashtray - but it's acceptable. Just not on a par with competitive Mazda and Toyota sedans I have owned in the past. This is one of a handful of GM's weaknesses. And... why, oh why doesn't GM have an illuminated gear indicator on the shift console? That would have cost them all of $2.00 to install on the assembly line and, while not a critical necessity, would have eliminated a small gripe about an otherwise extremely well executed car.
Problems so far: 3 problems corrected under warranty: - gasket under spoiler was distorted and allowed water to collect under spoiler (you could hear sloshing when you opened the trunk after a pressure wash); - Park LED on instrument panel didn't function (all other gear LEDs worked fine); - windshield contained a minor imperfection that caused a slight distortion in the driver's field of vision (this one was hard to find but it was there and it was distracting).
Seats: Our driver's seat has the power lumbar and I find it very comfortable (I have rented GP GT's before for long business trips and have not experienced any discomfort in those either). Perhaps it's dependent on your height or body type - chair comfort is rarely a "one size fits all" thing. Still, neither my wife nor I have felt anything untoward in either the driver's or passenger's seats (I'm 6'2" and about 180 lbs, she's 5'1" and would kill me if I even considered including her weight here but let's just say she's "petite").
I'm sure there's more I could write but those are the issues that come to mind.
#968 of 4457 seat comfort
Jul 18, 2001 (9:15 pm)
I guess I must be the only one to find the seat doesn't give good lumbar support but I didn't get the power lumber on my car. I also don't do a lot of distance driving so it's not a major problem. If I had a long commute everyday, it would be another story.
I'm getting 23-24 mpg but that's mostly city driving. Maybe 1/4 of it is interstate driving, if that much. Don't know if that's good for city driving or not. I've got the 3.1L engine.
I've got 1800 miles now and the only problem seems to be pinging when I exit my car. From what others have told me, it's the exhaust system cooling off.
I've been happy with the plastic on the car but my other car was 10 years old and anything would be an improvement. Now the plastic on that car rattled! I got the taupe cloth interior and I think that's one of the prettiest interiors that I've ever seen on a car--naturally I'm biased.
Jul 18, 2001 (9:55 pm)
That mileage is excellent for the type of driving you do - and certainly within the range you should be expecting. We've gotten 24.2 mpg over almost 10k miles on our Bonneville (excellent for a car of its heft) and I would estimate that we're about 20-21 with the Grand Prix. That's okay for the type of driving we do.
That pinging is almost assuredly the exhaust cooling off - something that happens more in single exhaust systems with higher-revving, high-compression engines. Your (SE I'm guessing) has the former so you should expect it. I haven't noticed it yet on either of our Pontiacs (but both have the 3.8 Series II with dual exhaust).
I agree that the taupe cloth is sharp. We have the grey cloth.
On the plastic issue: Next time you're at your Pontiac dealer, ask to see a Bonneville and you might see what I'm talking about. GM can do it - they just don't do it on all of their cars.
#970 of 4457 theiceman on decklid
Jul 19, 2001 (11:41 am)
The NHTSA had service bulletins regarding the decklid with the sloshing. It was for cars with a VIN prior to 1F134432. Mine is prior to that but I haven't had a problem so far. It could be because I've only driven in the rain once or twice and washed it only once. It's due to be washed again.
What I'm curious about is if there is a safety recall and a car on a dealer's lot is one of the cars to be included on the recall, would the dealership fix it. I read about a air bag recall and mine would have been included. It was sitting on a lot when the recall was issued. There was also a seat belt buckle recall but my build date did fall under the recall.
I'm assuming they fixed it. Would sure hate to find out the hard way that it wasn't fixed!
The gray interior is nice too. My other car had a gray interior and I was looking for a change.
Jul 19, 2001 (12:23 pm)
Odd - the TSB for the decklid leak was for the '99 model year. I don't know if mine is that some leak or same result from different cause. Thanks for the tip. You would think that the manufacturer would have made the correction at the assembly line or part manufacture by now and that the problem on mine is just "one of those things". Otherwise, yes, the dealer should be taking care of those things during dealer PDI and prep. Doesn't always happen though. Ask next time you bring it in for service.