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#4214 of 4457 97 Grand Prix GT won't start sometimes...
Jul 30, 2005 (3:32 pm)
have a 1997 Pontiac Grand Prix GTP 3.8 ltr that starts only when it wants to. Sometimes when I try to start it nothing happens, it makes no noise and just won't start. All of the lights inside and out come on as if it is going to start normally but it doesn't do anything. It usually happens after I have been driving around for a while, but then after it sits overnight, it starts right back up. I am confused by the problem and the mechanis told me this morning that I just need to drive it around until it does it again and tap the starter to determine if thats what is causing the problem. He said that otherwise it could cost me hundreds of dollars for them to determine what the problem is, and I'm a broke full time student that can't afford that! The car is in otherwise excellent condition. It is a one owner car with no past major problems except for the water pump being replaced. It has 151,000 miles on it. PLEASE HELP!
#4215 of 4457 Re: OHC Engines [evandro]
Jul 31, 2005 (6:39 pm)
Be careful what you wish for. I had two of the 3.4 DOHC Chevy engines. Gimme pushrods any day of the year.
#4216 of 4457 Re: OHC Engines [marksgtp]
Aug 02, 2005 (2:09 pm)
Well, that kludge of OHC, the 3.4 DOHC, doesn't quite count. I've driven the La Crosse with the new 3.6 DOHC and it gave me the best of both worlds: off-the-line punch and strong highway passing power. I get plenty of the former in the 3.8 OHV and of the latter in the 3.5 DOHC, but cam phasing brought both together in the 3.6 DOHC.
#4217 of 4457 Re: Mid-size Sedans [evandro]
Aug 02, 2005 (2:18 pm)
After 2 years, I'm still pretty much in the same situation. Here's an update:
- Pontiac GP: it's an OK car, but still too much $$$ for an OHV, except for the V8, which commands even more $$$.
- Mazda 6: I haven't driven one yet, but the V6 is quite expensive; I hear that it's not very well sound proofed.
- Buick La Crosse: it's got the right price and the right engine (3.6 V6), the interior is very well finished, but the rear seat room is a joke.
- Pontiac G6: it's an OK car, but too much $$$ for an OHV.
- Ford 500: it's an OK car, lots of room, but the 3.0 V6 lacks; I hated the CVT.
- Chrysler 300 / Dodge Charger: makes the right sounds and the right moves, but its styling is horrendous and the interior is cheap.
- VW Passat: too small for so much $$$.
- Honda Accord: can't get over the ugly styling inside and out, but that 3.0 V6 is a bargain.
- Nissan Altima: cheap interior and exterior with sub-par handling.
- Nissan Maxima: can't get over the front-end styling, but 260HP are very attractive.
- Toyota Camry: the 3.3 V6 is a bargain.
- Any Korean: can't get over the styling and the quality, or lack thereof. But I may have to bite my tongue in the future, for they try harder than either of the domestic makers.
#4218 of 4457 Re: Mid-size Sedans [evandro]
Aug 02, 2005 (9:04 pm)
What is your price range?
The new Impala ranges from 21k (base LS) to 32k (loaded SS) and seems like a big improvement over the outgoing model.
The Buick Lucerne is coming out, though I'll bet that you'll find the Northstar-powered version too expensive, and the 3800-powered version too much for an OHV engine.
The Grand Prix replacement is coming around model year 2008... look for upcoming coverage of the Sydney Auto Show, where Holden will introduce the next-gen Commodore. Unless plans change, this, with Pontiac styling, will replace the Grand Prix (and GTO) in the MY2008-2009 timeframe...
Aug 03, 2005 (5:19 am)
Did you ever figure out what E20 means? I am having the same problem.
#4220 of 4457 Re: Mid-size Sedans [hammen2]
Aug 03, 2005 (9:20 am)
My range tops at $25000.
I've driven an Impala for a week in vacation and it's laughable. C'mon, a car made in the 21st century with visible screws on the door panel??? It sure has a good chassis mated to a comfortable suspension and is well insulated, with plenty of room. Yet, the interior materials were sub-par.
The Lucerne is promising, especially if it gets the 3.6 V6, but I'm wondering about here and now...
Thanks for the tip on the Commodore.
#4221 of 4457 2006 changes - new center stack!
Aug 03, 2005 (9:44 am)
Special Edition for Grand Prix and Grand Prix GT, including ground effects, body-color grille, bright exhaust tips and new 17-inch wheels (late availability)
Dark Cherry exterior color replaces Fusion Orange
New interior colors: Ebony and Cashmere/Ebony
Mini-perforation leather available on steering wheel, shifter handle and seat inserts
Chrome rings on HVAC vents and door release handle rings
Revised metal finish on door pull and release handle, shifter PRNDL and steering wheel
Revised center console
Ebony TAPshift paddles
Seventeen-inch wheels available on base Grand Prix
#4222 of 4457 Re: Mid-size Sedans [evandro]
Aug 04, 2005 (5:14 pm)
I've driven an Impala for a week in vacation and it's laughable.
If you're talking about the 2000-2005, I agree, it makes a good rental, and that's about it.
You do know the Impala is brand new for '06, don't you?
Seems like a significant improvement over the old model.
Back to talking about the Grand Prix (dead after '07),
#4223 of 4457 Re: Mid-size Sedans [hammen2]
Aug 05, 2005 (10:22 am)
No, I wasn't aware that the '06 model was brand new. I'll keep my eyes open, thanks.