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#386 of 4457 Szott
Oct 18, 2000 (2:48 pm)
I echo Yurakm comments in regards to the Impala LS. If you are considering the Pontiac GP GT sedan, it would be worth it to test drive the Impala LS. The Impala LS's engine and transmission are identical to the GP GT (3800 series II V-6, 200 HP and the 4T65-E 4 speed auto).
However, for family hauling chores the Impala LS is a bit better suited for the job. The car has more rear head and legroom and a bigger trunk (17.0 CuFt). Another point to consider, is that the Impala is the only GM intermediate sedan (W-Body family)that has the best safety score ratings (5 stars front, 4 stars side)and already meets 2003 government safety standards, the Grand Prix, Regal, Intrigue do not. Also the initial sale price is lower on the Impala LS vs the GP GT.
As far as content goes, the Impala LS does not offer the HUD display, but make not mistake...the Impala LS is loaded (Power seats, Trip Computer, dual temp A/C, Monochromatic mirror, power everything, RDS CD/Tape stereo system, steering wheel controls, etc)Alloy wheels and rear deck lid spoiler are also standard.
The Impala is more comfortable and boasts better safety ratings in my book without losing any sporty feeling or looks to it.
Now the GP GT is a great car and it is more sporty and can be obtained for cheap given the incredible finance and rebate incentives offer on it right now. However, overtime, the Impala LS will have a better resale value as is the only GM intermediate that doesn't have ANY special financial or rebate incentives since the car was introduced in mid 1999. the Impala is also the only W-body car that is in the top 10 best sellers in the nation.
You can't go wrong with either car, each one has it pluses and minuses but for family duty, safety and value, the Impala LS gets the vote.
Check it out.
Oct 18, 2000 (4:14 pm)
I recently purchased a 2000 GP GT. So far, so good(besides a rattling passenger seat). I also recently had a 2000 Monte Carlo bought back by GM due to a "cradle/subframe" issue that could not be repaired. I state this as it is my understanding that the Impala sits on the exact same frame with the exact rack and pinion, cradle, subframe, etc. Just something to check out! Take a look at the National Highway Transportation and Safety site and look into "customer complaints". Good luck with whatever you choose!
#388 of 4457 I haven't had
Oct 18, 2000 (4:37 pm)
The alleged engine cradle problem. Still check out the car. Do a fair comparison before you decide.
#389 of 4457 Toon1
Oct 18, 2000 (4:41 pm)
For your info, the GP as all other cars of the W-Body family share most of the mechanical underpinnings, so don't think somehow the GP will make you immune to a front end problem.
The Buick Century, Buick Regal, Chevrolet Lumina, Chevrolet Montecarlo, Pontiac Grand Prix and Oldsmobile Intrigue all belong to the W-body platform.
#390 of 4457 Thanks for the info...
Oct 18, 2000 (5:18 pm)
Didn't realize the Impala had such high saftey ratings. I'll take a closer look. Still, something about the GP's looks keeps pulling me towards it. Then again, I have to consider safety for the kid. Plenty to think about. Thanks again for the help. I was afraid I'd get negative anti-GM attacks from the likes of bohlen and broncodave. It seems they may have had a bad experience or two with the general. At least broncodave seems to know something about the car. Didn't appear that bohlen has ever even seen one up close! Thanks again.
Oct 18, 2000 (9:10 pm)
I know the feeling. When I was shopping, the GP was the car I kept coming back to over and over.
I have two teenagers. They fit well in the back seat (they don't fight, so I'll assume they are comfy back there).
Can't comment about the Impala. I've never driven one.
#392 of 4457 szott
Oct 19, 2000 (11:31 pm)
By all means, check the Impala out, too, just so you know you've covered the bases. But the 2001 GP is a 5th-year build on the GP design, while the new Impalas are still (from what I've heard) working out the kinks in the design. I haven't driven an Impala, but find the GP (I have a GTP coupe) to be roomy and strong. I got mine in February this year and have had only minor issues with it.
Oct 20, 2000 (12:23 am)
GTP (and Buick Regal GS) obviously are stronger, than Impala. Stronger engine/transmission, not body.
But the comparison is with GP, not GTP. Impala LS (and the base Impala with the right options) have the same engine, the same transmission, and mostly the same suspension.
Major pluses for Impala: about 5 inches longer (more space), and have better crush rating. The both is very important with family sedan, with kids.
Minuses: no HUD, lesser radio. Probable minus: the first year design aluminum engine cradle.
The styling - external, internal, dash and instrumentation - is up to the personal tastes and preferences...
#394 of 4457 hey, szott, did you buy yet?
Oct 20, 2000 (2:26 am)
Let us know what you end up with, ok?
#395 of 4457 tsjay...it's official tomorrow...
Oct 20, 2000 (4:41 pm)
Went out to the dealer the other night. Saw a black GP GT sedan. Briefly went weak in the knees. Regained my composure. Drooled a little. Grabbed the keys from the salesman. Drove it at speed through some nice twisties and sweepers in the area. Parked it. Got out. Tried to conceal the smile stuck on my face. Bought it. I pick it up tomorrow.
I looked at an Impala first at the Chev dealer next door to the Pontiac dealer. I just didn't like the styling. As yurakm states, it's a personal preference thing. One of my account reps has a new impala and it's pretty sweet but I really fell hard for the GP.
I'll plan on giving a running commentary on my experiences with it.