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Pontiac Grand Prix, Sedan
#1972 of 4457 Where is the coupe?
May 19, 2003 (1:50 pm)
i know there is a lot of people that will NOT buy a new GP because it is ONLY a 4 door. That question came up many times at the NYC Javitts convention annual car show. Of course the Pontiac Reps had no answer. I heard it was lack of sales on the 2 door. But yet, Pontiac continues to make the 2 door Sunfire and Grand Am. I had a 1997 GTP coupe that I traded in on my leftover 2002 GTP coupe. I was going to buy a 2003 GTP, but then heard the coupe was cancelled, so I luckily found a leftover 02 coupe and got a great deal on it.
I will NEVER be buying a Grand Prix again unless the coupe is brought back. Looks alot sportier and appealing to me then another 4 door family mobile.
I like the GTP coupe, because it had ALOT more room then a transam or mustang and was much better in the snow with front drive and about 20% less to insure then a Mustang V8 or Camaro V8. The 2 door sunfire and Grand Am are too small.
Yes GM has the Monte carlo, but that is butt ugly compared to the GTP.
The GTO doesn't have enough style, plus higher price, MY GTP coupe looks better.
May 19, 2003 (2:03 pm)
Coupes were about 20% of the sales from 1997-2002. Another loss for GM.
May 19, 2003 (3:19 pm)
The GTO fills the coupe void for Pontiac quite nicely and should be looker when we finally get to see it, even if its a little melted looking.
May 19, 2003 (5:04 pm)
gunit : 20% sounds optimistic. I'd be surprised if 10% of the GPs I see are coupes.
Reg : Looks are in the eye of the beholder. Not everyone has your tastes thankfully. I think the dash looks great (aside from the bubble).
May 19, 2003 (8:54 pm)
I have criteria for stylistic success in a car other than just seeing the blue GM 'mark of excellence' on some sticker on the door jamb or under the hood, or in the owners manual.
If Camrys ever came with a GM badge on it, I suppose you'd all of a sudden find those attractive as well.
#1977 of 4457 Have the seats recovered
May 19, 2003 (9:01 pm)
I stated earlier that Pontiac's choice of cloth is not for my tastes, but there are auto upholstery shops than can recover the seats just like factory. So if the cloth pattern is tha only major objection.... I mention it as it is an alternative - negotiate the price down and then find a reputable shop to recover the seats in a better choice. My father in law somehow got a puncture in his Regal's leather - he found a shop that was able to match the leather and recover the seat cushion so it looked like it had never been damaged. Years ago I had a pickup seat(bench) recovered that was nicer than the original ever could have dreamed of.
May 19, 2003 (9:33 pm)
While I'm a leather seat person, the new GP cloth is pretty bad. This seems to be a trend among all automakers with GM's cloth being the worst these days. Bad thing is, GM used to put pretty nice cloth in their cars. I actually preferred the ultra plush cloth seats of the some of their higher end Buicks and Oldsmobiles back in the late 80s. Now you can get cloth as a no cost option on most of those models, but it's not very nice cloth.
vcjumper, the new GP doesn't offer automatic climate control at all. In fact, the GP hasn't offered this in several years. I noticed this two years ago when I was seriously considering a GTP coupe.
gunit, I agree with you on the GP coupe although the GTO is what it taking it's place ultimately. The GP was redesigned in 97 I wanted a GTP coupe so bad, but being in college then I just could not afford one. Almost bought one two years ago, but the "de-contented" interior turned me off. I'm one of the rare who likes a good size coupe. The Grand Am/Alero and Stratus/Sebring are too small. A coupe the size of the Monte Carlo or GP is just right. The Monte is just not very good looking IMO and doesn't offer the supercharged V6 like the GP did.
May 20, 2003 (4:42 am)
Reg : Hate the Camry, ugly. Don't like the Accord sedan much, love the Accord coupe though, beautiful. As I've said before, I've owned lots of other brands in the past so don't label me as your argument.
orwoody : I'm hoping Pontiac wakes up this year and offers better cloth for next year. I think the whole cloth thing is a plot to sell leather though.
May 20, 2003 (6:11 pm)
it probably is a plot, that's a good point.
#1981 of 4457 CTS lookalike?
May 20, 2003 (6:57 pm)
In the past couple of weeks, two different people have complimented me on the new look of the 2004 GTP, and they commented that it looked like a CTS. I thought that was rather strange.