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#1691 of 4457 Decided to go for a 2003 GT
Mar 01, 2003 (8:44 pm)
I posted a longer version on the "Pontiac Grand Prix 2004 Redesign...Comments" forum. We tried the Acura RSX and the Mazda6s. Dropped by Pontiac dealer for fun and ended up buying a 2003 GT w/ 1SB, Wide Track Package, 4 way lumbar Driver seat for less than 19 grand when all was said and done. Although I'm betting the 2004 GP is a better car, I'm also betting deals like the one we got won't be around on the 2004 for a while(if ever). I still intend to take a 2004 GP for a test spin The Mazda6s is a nice car but...
#1692 of 4457 blower, no blower
Mar 02, 2003 (12:32 pm)
the fact is that GM was producing this car with 240HP and 280 lbs*torque back in 1996 (actually Riviera had this engine even earlier in 1995)
Where were Nissan and Honda back then? 160-195HP?
So finally Nissan and Honda finally catch up with HP numbers, and still they can't outrun the GTP, even with the help of their "superior" engine technology and 5-speed auto tranny.
And to make matters worse Honda's auto tranny can't even handle the power (my TL-S tranny broke at 6,100 miles)
P.S. Yeah, if you slap a blower on the Altima, it will be faster. It will probably be able to do 0-60 in 6.6 seconds with auto tranny. That's what GTP did back in 1996.
Mar 08, 2003 (10:48 am)
It is ridiculous to talk about how an engine develops power because the average buyer doesnt give a damn. As long as the 3800 can meet emission and deliver good mileage it is still viable. The altima and Accord may have less displacement but it nets you nothing in terms of real world performance. All it gives you are bragging rights in terms of specific output and higher redlines. The other thing that must be considered is that the GP has less torque steer than either of those cars in spite of the fact is has far more torque. The altima and maxima have too much torque steer because Nissan has never managed that much FWD power before. Unless you are racing your car you will never need to use power aboive 5000rpm. Even though smaller V6s rev higher, the owners rarely get a chance to get anywhere near there redlines. In the meantime those cars are making no torque at lower rpms that are encountered everyday.
Mar 08, 2003 (7:54 pm)
Grand Prix has awesome amount of torque and almost no torque steer.
Mar 09, 2003 (7:43 am)
#1696 of 4457 Grand Prix 1995 Engine Problems
Mar 09, 2003 (9:34 am)
Hey guys could I get a hand here. I have a 1995 Grand Prix it has 86000 miles on it and burns oil at high speeds. I've checked it out and I can't figure out why. Anybody ever heard anything about it? It's a 3.1L. She perfroms great other than this detail.
Mar 13, 2003 (5:26 am)
How much oil is it using? What do you consider high speed? Are you getting blue smoke out of the exhaust?
#1698 of 4457 so i drove the new GP....
Mar 14, 2003 (8:42 pm)
So my dad came home with a 2004 Grand Prix. Unfortunately it was a base model with NO options except a CD/Cassette player and an engine block heater. But after driving it you would never think it's a base model. Compared to the last generation GP (which I used to lease) this car handles a LOT better. It feels very tight and controlled. Throttle response and break pedal feel are great and the car truly feels smaller than it really is. Acceleration feels like its improved; I estimated a 0-60 time of around 7.5 seconds using brake-torque method and a stopwatch. The entire car feels tighter and connected when compared to the old car. In fact I would go as far as saying it's the best front wheel GM car I have driven to date. While im not a big fan of the exterior styling (kind of tacky in some areas) I love the new interior. The materials used are of much higher quality and the panel gaps are quite small, especially when compared to the previous GP. The seats are pretty deeply bolstered and remind me of those found in the CTS. The quality of sound from the standard 6 speaker setup makes me question if its really worth anteing up $600 for the better monsoon system. Overall: an awesome improvement over last generation's car and an above average mid-sized car. here is a link to the pics:
http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/amaximeya/lst?.dir=/we+got+a+2004+Gran- - d+Prix+for+3+months&.src=ph&.order=&.view=t&.done- - =http%3a//photos.yahoo.com
if ya got any qestions or want more detailed pics let me know. I gotta try and sell this car so GM gives my dad a bigger bonus this year
Mar 15, 2003 (2:38 am)
Thanks for the great pix and commentary!