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#646 of 1197 S70 AWD Questions
Feb 01, 2005 (1:58 pm)
I'm looking for a reasonably inexpensive, safe AWD car. A local dealer has a '99 S70 AWD Sedan with only 50K miles for $13K. I like to take my vehicles to 150-200K miles before I retire them, and I've been very successful with GM, Mazda and Mitsubishi. I've never owned a Volvo or any other Euro car. I know a lot of satisfied Volvo owners, but I also know a lot of 'satisfied' Volvo owners who have spent big money for the occasional out of warrantee repair.
I'm getting scared off by all the posts on this board about a very wide variety of expensive problems.
This isn't the place for an unbiased opinion, but I'll ask a couple of questions:
Does anyone here have an S70 AWD with over 150K miles? If so, be honest: exactly what out of warrantee repairs did you require, and how much did they cost?
Are all S70 AWD Turbos automatic? I'd really rather have a 5-speed, if possible.
Do the XC70 wagons have the same issues?
I can get a 1999 MB ML320 for about the same price, but I see a lot of traffic about their problems, too. Auto only for that vehicle, too.
#647 of 1197 Re: S70 AWD Questions [scottl]
Feb 02, 2005 (10:13 am)
All S70 AWDs were automatic.
What problems there were were minor. Mostly headlight bulbs failing,squeaks and rattles.
The 98 V70 XC's had some driveshaft issues, but those were addressed by 99.
Maintenance won't be cheap. Timing belt needs replacing every 100k, plugs every 30k.
By and large a good car, that will last a long time if cared for properly. Just don't expect japanese style low running costs on ANY European car.
#648 of 1197 Agree Absolutely
Feb 03, 2005 (5:40 am)
I agree with volvomax. I have a 98 S-70 (not AWD, but the base model), that now has about 86K miles, and is running strong, no rattles, still tight as a new car, enjoy the seats, the design and engineering, the handling, and the feeling of safety (but I REALLY enjoy the fact that it runs well and is paid off!). But in seems in all European models, you will have more frequent and expensive maintenance than the Japanese makes and even American cars- I have a great independent repair and maintenance place (not a dealer), but even then, $1500-$2000 a year for maintenance is what I expect, and that is without "catastrophic" repairs, such as a transmission replacement. I'll bet that Mercedes, BMW, Saab, Jaguar, etc are about the same. The other thing is that most European cars require premium fuel, not so with most Japanese makes, which adds 20 cents per gallon used. But that's OK, a new car is still way more expensive than that.
So just know what you are getting into. But I also am pretty confident that my car with go for 100K more miles easily, maybe more.
#649 of 1197 Re: S70 AWD Questions [volvomax]
Feb 03, 2005 (8:56 am)
Do you have any idea how much the timing belt replace costs?
#650 of 1197 Re: Agree Absolutely [lweiss]
Feb 03, 2005 (8:59 am)
How does the $1500-$2000 year in 'maintenance' break down? Is it really 'maintenance' or is it things breaking?
I change my own oil and filters, brake pads, etc. Are you actually incurring that much in maintenance or are you talking about repairs?
#651 of 1197 Well, Kinda Like This
Feb 04, 2005 (7:45 am)
My $1500-$2000 repairs and maintenance are for things like the 60K maintenance (maybe $600-800), some sensors that go bad and need replacement, minor electrical things that are pretty expensive (like my power antenna that broke- $180), then oil changes, things like brake pads (Volvos have good brakes but go through the pads quickly), clogged up windshield washers that needed new (and expensive) nozzles and even a radio replacement (about $300). It adds up.
#652 of 1197 my maintenance
Feb 04, 2005 (12:17 pm)
i had just figured this out the other day. To the best of my recollection, over the past 3.5 years, I have averaged about $725 a year.
Lweiss just reminded me that I had to fix my antenna, but that only cost me about $25 (FYI, you can get a new mast/nylon gear thingy online and take apart and rebuild the unit - its a big PITA, but obviously saves quite a bit of cash).
But that illustrates why my cost is low. I have done most of the work myself. Other than $29 oil changes at the local Volvo independent mechanic and the 2 trips to the dealer for sensors I couldn't diagnose (about $200 average per trip), I've taken care of the rest. To date, I've done 2 full tune-ups, a timing belt, shocks/struts and mounts, all pads and rotors once, then front pads and rotors again along with one seized caliper, and the cabin filter a couple of times. I think that about covers it. Oh, and 3 tranny flushes (which also had done at dealer, so add that to the list of non-self-performed maintenance).
#653 of 1197 need a lot of help
Feb 06, 2005 (7:27 pm)
I'm new to this site and am having trouble locating the info. I need. I have a 99 S70 with 95,000 miles on it, and I notice that when I turn, doesn't matter, left or right but usually when pulling into a parking space, sometimes I notice a strange noise. I had it in once and they told me that something called splines (??) were rubbing together, so they fixed it by gluing them back in place, but it seems that didn't really help after all. People I've asked seem to think it could be an axle problem, which sounds expensive to me. The car is under warranty until May and is due for a 97500 checkup in April. Any ideas on this noise?
Also, the dealership just sent me some "coupons" and I have no idea if they're good deals or not. Disc brake special that includes replacing brake pads, inspecting brake rotors and calipers, and inspecting parking brake operation costs $139.24 per axle. I'm looking at the owner's manual trying to figure out exactly what they're going to check on the car when I take it in, but unfortunately I don't have it right in front of me right now. I didn't think they were doing anything but checking the pads for this checkup, so is this $139.24 a good deal? Any thoughts? Basically I need to get a Volvo for Dummies book because while I've had the thing for 2 years and it's given me very minor problems, it's now getting older and I want to be sure that I don't get taken by the dealers....everyone's nightmare, I suppose. So any guidance, help, etc. will be greatly appreciated.
#654 of 1197 Re: need a lot of help [mdwalton1]
Feb 07, 2005 (6:50 am)
What kind of noise? Grinding noise?
Usually, when you get noises turning the wheel at low speeds (like parking), this is just a matter of the steering stops needing grease. Mine got to the point where the noise was VERY harsh, and I didn't think just greasing the steering stops could possibly fix such a noise ... but I was wrong.
So... $270 to do brake pads and a brake inspection? Sounds kinda pricey. Maybe check with a brake specialist kinda place like Meineke (or is it Midas?) and see what they would charge for such a service. They also warranty the brakes for the life of the car after they do the job, so don't forget that added bonus.
For more in depth technical info on your particular car (mine is a '98, which is a bit different), you may want to check out swedespeed or volvospeed. There is also a list of maintenance information and instructions on the latter.
#655 of 1197 Re: need a lot of help [qbrozen]
Feb 07, 2005 (3:09 pm)
Thank you thank you thank you for pointing me in the direction of some more information. The noise in particular could be construed as a grinding noise, I suppose. To me, and it's especially noticable when I make a left turn, it sounds like a little pop. What's really frustrating is that it doesn't do it all the time, and not usually when I make a slow, wide turn - just when I do a hard fast turn (which I know I shouldn't do and I'm working on that).
Thanks again for your help!!!