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Ford Taurus, Mercury Sable, Sedan
Aug 07, 2000 (12:51 am)
The wife got a new 2000 Taurus SES in early May. She loves it. Her only complaint is the gas mileage 18 mpg in town, 23-24 mpg on the highway. My experience is that this car handles better than Honda Accord or Toyota Camry. When we were looking we drove both of those fine automobiles and picked the Taurus because it had enough headroom for our 6'2" sons in the backseat with a moonroof. The only other car that did was the Chevy Impala and my wife said that car was too big for her. The Taurus has more than enough get up and go for our needs but I wouldn't consider this a "muscle car".
The rear door molding on one of the doors had a slight gap has been discussed in other postings. When the dealer was looking at it he preceded to break the door molding and has ordered a replacement molding. In the meantime the gap he have now is very big so if you bring this up to the dealer make sure he has door moldings on hand.
On other comment, the August issue of Consumer Reports published costs to repair several vehicles including the 1992 Ford Taurus, Honda Accord, and Toyota Camry. The cost of repairing the Accord and Camry was considerable higher than the Taurus (i.e. engine short block+assembly and valve grind+gasket set: Taurus-$3,240, Accord-$5490, Camry-$5230.) This tells me two things: first that the Accord and Camry use more expensive parts, and two they better be reliable since the cost of fixing them is very high. Is there any other place to see similar data?
#376 of 3389 Noise...
Aug 07, 2000 (6:00 pm)
I currently own my second Taurus and overall am very happy with the performance and reliablity. Note: much happy with the '97 over my current '98 model.
But, in both models I'm getting a whine/moan from the back wheels. Brakes are fine and were replace about 15,000 miles ago. Very noticeable during stop and go traffic. I've brought it to the dealer twice and they can't fix it.
Has anyone else had this problem and had it corrected?
#377 of 3389 Taurus vs. Crown Vic vs. Impala
Aug 08, 2000 (5:35 am)
Been thinking about ordering a 2001 Crown Victoria, they are offered with 240 hp engine in the handling & performance package. I have to say, other than gas mileage, for a few thousand more you get a much bigger, more solid, body on frame automobile. Not to mention, easily ungradable for more power with the Mustang parts floating around.
I have a 92 Taurus, but I am impressed with the fact that I see tons of old Crown Vics around, and I know of several that have hit 200,000 miles with few problems.
There is a reason cabs and cops use these instead of vans, SUV's, Taurus, Impala's, etc. I'm not sure if I can handle the gas mileage, but hey, it is back under $1.30 around here, and I have the Miata in the garage.
Just another option for any Ford lovers out there.
Aug 08, 2000 (11:00 pm)
240 hp? is that the SOHC 4.6v8?
#379 of 3389 Who deemed Consumer Reports God
Aug 09, 2000 (3:57 am)
I don't know how consumer reports became the ultimate authority on auto reliability. They shouldn't be; do you know if their surveys are statistically valid?
Furthermore, they never mention the repair cost, insurance cost etc for certain recommended cars are high.
Bottom line - if you take that rag as gospel good luck to you. My opinion is they are biased. They give good reliability ratings on new (just itroduced) Toyotas and Hondas. Yet - no rating for a GM or a Ford. What gives. Is it written in their Bible that these brands are always reliable. Are these brands always a wisw dollar choice?
Consumer Reports is not unbiased!
Aug 09, 2000 (4:24 am)
consumer reports is kinda right up there with national public radio......
you can take that to mean whatever you want it to........
#381 of 3389 Power on Crown Vic Up This Year
Aug 09, 2000 (5:05 am)
Yes, I believe they put a new cylinder head from the Mustang GT on the engine this year. The 240 hp is with the package, the base engine now puts out 225 hp. Have not driven one yet, but I wish you could get the handling & performance package with the rear axle ratio of the base car.
Last year, the base model (200 hp) would do 0-60 in under nine seconds. Don't know what it will do with the 240 hp and the gear ratio.
#382 of 3389 Who deemed Consumer Reports God?
Aug 09, 2000 (8:57 am)
I guess car buyers all across the country did. I think it's a helpful tool for narrowing down your choices. Most other auto magazines also rate Hondas and Toyotas highly. Are they all bias too? Back to Consumer Reports. When new (or redesigned) models are introduced, they don't give reliability ratings on the car (even Hondas and Toyotas). They will indicate what the car's (or other cars from the same company) past history has been as a guide. JP Powers (also highly regarded) generally give high remarks to Hondas and Toyotas too. For personal reasons, I do hope Consumer Reports is more accurate than JD Powers in regards to the VW Jetta's reliability history. Auto World Weekly, a brand new car enthusiast magazine that emphasizes road tests of cars that most people can buy, did a comparison test between the Taurus, Accord and Camry. They had the Taurus ahead of the Camry.
#383 of 3389 Anything today
Aug 09, 2000 (3:33 pm)
Is ahead of the Camry.