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You are in the Ford Taurus/Mercury Sable
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Ford Taurus, Mercury Sable, Sedan
#3071 of 3389 Re: End of the line for the Sable [chuck1]
Mar 09, 2005 (7:43 am)
I just did an inventory check on three Ford dealers in my area. One had 14 2005 Tauri, the other two had 4-5 each.
This tells me Ford is still allowing their dealers to get them for sale to the general public.
I would bet Ford will still allow sales to dealers at least up until the Fusion comes along.
I cannot comment on the seats in the 2005 models, but I would really be surprised that Ford would change them much from 2000 on as the tooling for those seat designs has long been paid for and it does not make much economic sense to retool to make cheaper seats for a model that is going to be discontinued.
Danielj6: Taurus/Sable have been a roaring bargain all along, so I doubt it will get much better than it has been.
#3072 of 3389 Re: End of the line for the Sable [badgerfan]
Mar 09, 2005 (9:27 am)
"I cannot comment on the seats in the 2005 models, but I would really be surprised that Ford would change them much from 2000"
Well, I spend 6 to 7 hours a day in mine, and I can tell you the seats are very bad. Also, when a product nears "end of life" many car makers look for ways to cut corners and make more money on the last of the models. Look at the current Explorer, they changed the door handles from "body color" to flat "black plastic". If you want "body color" you now pay for them in an "appearance or "sport package". Again, I read where the '05 models were "fleet only". Per your post that information I read is not correct. As I mentioned- five months and 14,000 miles later, I can't recommend this car based on the seats alone, and the standard motor is underpowered!
#3073 of 3389 Re: End of the line for the Sable [chuck1]
Mar 09, 2005 (9:31 am)
I just did a search of local dealers and did a personal inventory at one yesterday along with talking to a salesman. Of course he had no clue when the Taurus line would end, but he did say anyone can buy a 05 Taurus. In my area there are about 50 05 Tauri on the various lots. Right after the 2001 model year, Ford started de-contenting the vehicles; i.e. no glove box light, no rear a/c vents at the back of the console, no "double visor" for the passenger side, no shade band on windshield, black plastic interior door handles on all four doors, and a few other things you most likely can't see.
#3074 of 3389 Re: End of the line for the Sable [chuck1]
Mar 09, 2005 (11:19 am)
I haven't sat in one newer than my 2000, however, if the Ford official web site pictures are correct, Ford did a heck of a job disguising the "cheapened" seats because they look exactly like those in my 2000 Taurus SES with fabric seats, right down to the seam pattern on the seat backs and bottoms.
My 2000 Taurus seats are quite firm in a good way and very comfortable, long trips included and the 3.0 Duratech has all the power I require with very good fuel effiency.
On the upside, Ford did add a driver information center and switched to a low profile LED high mounted brake light, so not all the changes were decontenting. Additionally in those four years, the out the door price I could have paid actually was flat or went down for the comparably equipped Taurus.
#3075 of 3389 Re: End of the line for the Sable [badgerfan]
Mar 09, 2005 (5:39 pm)
"My 2000 Taurus seats are quite firm in a good way and very comfortable, long trips included and the 3.0 Duratech has all the power I require with very good fuel effiency."
In my job (outside sales) I have driven for business 32 automobiles. The miles add up real quick when you cover a lot of territory. This Taurus has the worst seats of all of the cars I have used in business. If you sit on the "hard seats" and they do not conform to your "bottom half" in any way, I do not see how that can be "good". When you spend 6 to 7 hours a day "on them" you notice it real quick. I have the "Vulcan Motor" in my Taurus. I think it puts out a 160 horsepower, someone can correct me if I am wrong. You now have 4 cyl. motors that put out close to 150 in much lighter cars. The Taurus was a good car 5 or 6 years ago. Time and technology has passed it by. I would think that you would pay less for a car that is almost 6 model years old that has been decontented, and not updated. Why would you pay more?
Mar 10, 2005 (2:38 pm)
I have a 99 mercury sable and my radio sound cuts off every time I step on the brake. This happens in drive or reverse but not in neutral or park. Any suggestions
#3077 of 3389 Re: radio [dng1]
Mar 10, 2005 (5:36 pm)
Dont't step on the brake ! - The radio will work just fine then.
Seriously though - This sounds like a bad ground problem to me. First clean the battery connections. Then clean the ground cables that run from the engine to the frame. They must have excellent conduction or you'll see problems like you mention.
Mar 18, 2005 (10:41 am)
When is Taurus production slated to end for good? Will it be in 2006, or '07?
#3079 of 3389 91 Taurus AC Clutch/PSPump/drive belt removal
Mar 19, 2005 (11:24 am)
Every repair I have to do on this car has to be balanced by the current cost of the car ($500)
Somehow the a/c cools marginal on the hottest day.
So if I just let it go for now what happens?
How long till it freezes? or will it just make a racket and a lot of noise and thats it?
I presume I need the hose removal tool to remove the a/c compressor. I intend to have it evacuated and filled with gas professionally as I dont have the equipment. Any ideas?
In 1998, a colleague of mine drove the car with no power steering (PS) fluid. Now everytime the car turns the PS pump makes a loud whine (10 times the normal). How do you remove the fanbelt that drives the PS and the AC? I did not see an idler pulley or anyway to even adjust the tension of this belt.
Also the book tells me that I need a special tool to remove the PS pulley first before the PS pump can be removed. Is that right? Why cant I remove the whole thing at the mounting?
#3080 of 3389 Re: 91 Taurus AC Clutch/PSPump/drive belt removal [heartmd]
Mar 19, 2005 (11:25 am)
The preamble to item 1 is that the AC Clutch makes a racket and I want to know if it might seize/freeze