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You are in the Ford Taurus/Mercury Sable
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Ford Taurus, Mercury Sable, Sedan
#3069 of 3389 Re: End of the line for the Sable [badgerfan]
Mar 08, 2005 (4:12 pm)
"It states there that Taurus will disappear sometime before 2008. Primarily being sold to Fleet/rental car companies between now and when Ford eventually stops production"
There seems to be conflicting information. Everything I have read states that the Taurus will end by the end of the 2006 model year. AND, that the Fusion is the DIRECT REPLACEMENT for the Taurus. It is all really a mute point I would think. Since the only way to get a 2005 Taurus is if you work for a company that has a fleet deal with Ford. My company is one. I would think when demand softens with the fleets that will be the ultimate test as to when they will stop making these things. I have had an '05 SE since October of last year. My neighbor has a 2000 model. I would not recommend this car new or used, since they started making them for fleets, They have stripped down this car, and the seats are horrible. My neighbor's 2000 is a much better car. Even when these things show up used, I would stay away. I currently have 14,000 miles on mine. I can say there have been no problems to date. My company keeps them for two years then you turn them in.
#3070 of 3389 Re: End of the line for the Sable
Mar 08, 2005 (5:47 pm)
I read the news today. Does the demise of the Sable mean that one can get a killer deal on one of these babies???? Did Ford up the rebates?
#3071 of 3389 Re: End of the line for the Sable [chuck1]
Mar 09, 2005 (6:43 am)
I just did an inventory check on three Ford dealers in my area. One had 14 2005 Tauri, the other two had 4-5 each.
This tells me Ford is still allowing their dealers to get them for sale to the general public.
I would bet Ford will still allow sales to dealers at least up until the Fusion comes along.
I cannot comment on the seats in the 2005 models, but I would really be surprised that Ford would change them much from 2000 on as the tooling for those seat designs has long been paid for and it does not make much economic sense to retool to make cheaper seats for a model that is going to be discontinued.
Danielj6: Taurus/Sable have been a roaring bargain all along, so I doubt it will get much better than it has been.
#3072 of 3389 Re: End of the line for the Sable [badgerfan]
Mar 09, 2005 (8:27 am)
"I cannot comment on the seats in the 2005 models, but I would really be surprised that Ford would change them much from 2000"
Well, I spend 6 to 7 hours a day in mine, and I can tell you the seats are very bad. Also, when a product nears "end of life" many car makers look for ways to cut corners and make more money on the last of the models. Look at the current Explorer, they changed the door handles from "body color" to flat "black plastic". If you want "body color" you now pay for them in an "appearance or "sport package". Again, I read where the '05 models were "fleet only". Per your post that information I read is not correct. As I mentioned- five months and 14,000 miles later, I can't recommend this car based on the seats alone, and the standard motor is underpowered!
#3073 of 3389 Re: End of the line for the Sable [chuck1]
Mar 09, 2005 (8:31 am)
I just did a search of local dealers and did a personal inventory at one yesterday along with talking to a salesman. Of course he had no clue when the Taurus line would end, but he did say anyone can buy a 05 Taurus. In my area there are about 50 05 Tauri on the various lots. Right after the 2001 model year, Ford started de-contenting the vehicles; i.e. no glove box light, no rear a/c vents at the back of the console, no "double visor" for the passenger side, no shade band on windshield, black plastic interior door handles on all four doors, and a few other things you most likely can't see.
#3074 of 3389 Re: End of the line for the Sable [chuck1]
Mar 09, 2005 (10:19 am)
I haven't sat in one newer than my 2000, however, if the Ford official web site pictures are correct, Ford did a heck of a job disguising the "cheapened" seats because they look exactly like those in my 2000 Taurus SES with fabric seats, right down to the seam pattern on the seat backs and bottoms.
My 2000 Taurus seats are quite firm in a good way and very comfortable, long trips included and the 3.0 Duratech has all the power I require with very good fuel effiency.
On the upside, Ford did add a driver information center and switched to a low profile LED high mounted brake light, so not all the changes were decontenting. Additionally in those four years, the out the door price I could have paid actually was flat or went down for the comparably equipped Taurus.
#3075 of 3389 Re: End of the line for the Sable [badgerfan]
Mar 09, 2005 (4:39 pm)
"My 2000 Taurus seats are quite firm in a good way and very comfortable, long trips included and the 3.0 Duratech has all the power I require with very good fuel effiency."
In my job (outside sales) I have driven for business 32 automobiles. The miles add up real quick when you cover a lot of territory. This Taurus has the worst seats of all of the cars I have used in business. If you sit on the "hard seats" and they do not conform to your "bottom half" in any way, I do not see how that can be "good". When you spend 6 to 7 hours a day "on them" you notice it real quick. I have the "Vulcan Motor" in my Taurus. I think it puts out a 160 horsepower, someone can correct me if I am wrong. You now have 4 cyl. motors that put out close to 150 in much lighter cars. The Taurus was a good car 5 or 6 years ago. Time and technology has passed it by. I would think that you would pay less for a car that is almost 6 model years old that has been decontented, and not updated. Why would you pay more?
Mar 10, 2005 (1:38 pm)
I have a 99 mercury sable and my radio sound cuts off every time I step on the brake. This happens in drive or reverse but not in neutral or park. Any suggestions
#3077 of 3389 Re: radio [dng1]
Mar 10, 2005 (4:36 pm)
Dont't step on the brake ! - The radio will work just fine then.
Seriously though - This sounds like a bad ground problem to me. First clean the battery connections. Then clean the ground cables that run from the engine to the frame. They must have excellent conduction or you'll see problems like you mention.
Mar 18, 2005 (9:41 am)
When is Taurus production slated to end for good? Will it be in 2006, or '07?