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Ford Taurus, Mercury Sable, Sedan
#2625 of 3389 Bought Taurus SES Deluxe
Jan 07, 2004 (8:23 am)
I've had a 97 contour (24 valve 5-speed) since 97' and put 165,000 trouble free miles (Amen to maintenance!). I recently looked at the Verona EX and was very impressed(acceleration issue way overblown - with traffic you CAN'T get 0-60 under 10 sec. anyway!).
Almost bought one, until on a whim I stopped at the local Ford dealer. He had in an Former Exec Taurus (2003 SES Deluxe) 17K miles with duratec, leather, moon roof, spoiler, mach stereo for 13,750. Car drove perfect, great ride, attractive exterior, nice pick-up and snarl, buttery tranny and comfy seating. Not sure how anyone could bash this car, it is great! I test drove a lot of mid-size cars and was impressed with most of them (exception - Impala) and the import buying crowd is missing the boat. For the price you cant come close to getting a comparably equipped import. This is a mature design and had all the kinks worked out. Because it is not the newest design, doesn't make it bad, only a very smart buy!
Jan 07, 2004 (11:01 am)
The noise is the actual window pushing into the top of the rail. I guess all Tauri do not do this, but know for a fact that my 89 wagon, my father in laws 94 and my wife's 2001 all do the same thing.
#2627 of 3389 badgerfan and fdthird
Jan 07, 2004 (11:48 am)
I would describe the noise just as fdthird does. It doesn't seem right-- it seems like there should be some kind of built-in stop mechanism. Plus, my back windows don't do it. I've taken it in before for the driver's window, and they fixed it but the remedy was only temporary, as that's what it's currently in for.
Badgerfan, could you possibly check your front windows next time you're in your car and let us know if they do the same? It's an odd problem. Rather small in the grand scheme of things, but something I'd like permanently fixed in my remaining 9K of warranty. If your windows do it, they will make all kinds of creaking noises even once they're all the way up.
Jan 07, 2004 (5:07 pm)
"a prominent tapping noise from the engine when it's warmed up. The service writer told me that there is a technical service bulletin on that for 03s with the Duratec and mine was the third he had seen like that. According to the bulletin, the cause is camshaft bolts that were not torqued properly."
zslick, did you mean you had heard this noise while driving in cabin, or you hear it outside of car when it is idling ?
Regarding pinging, there is no pinging on Duratec on regular.
Jan 08, 2004 (5:54 am)
I have not noticed any unusual noises in my power windows. Once the window is closed, the motor stops and there is no noise, even if I hold the power window switch down. Also, I have no creaking noises from the windows. In fact the car is completely creak, squeak and rattle free, now at about 34K miles and over three years of ownership.
Sounds like there is something misadjusted or broken in your power window mechanism. I would think if it shows up consistently every time you close your window, one would hope your dealer service and Ford should be able to diagnose the problem.
#2630 of 3389 Window noise
Jan 08, 2004 (10:11 am)
I get the same sound from my windows too. It is louder in the winter. It never really bothered me, only my wife. I believe the noise is the window seating itself into the felt/rubber gasket. And the secondary sound after you let go of the window switch is the window backing off slightly. I do not think it is anything to worry about.
#2631 of 3389 badgerfan, eng6ine, fdthird
Jan 08, 2004 (3:13 pm)
Thanks for your replies to my postings. I received my car back from the dealership and they fixed the window issue, though at the cashier they were unable to tell me what they did (the mechanic was out sick today so I couldn't ask him).
They did a nice job on the paint as well. I'm very pleased with the dealership in general.
Thanks again for all of your help.
#2632 of 3389 chicagosky
Jan 09, 2004 (7:44 pm)
I've had 4 Sable's, '86, '88, '91 and a '96. The front windows did that on ALL of them. I don't know what it is, but the windows never failed. Mileage was, respectively, 50K, 125K, 175K and 115K.
Jan 11, 2004 (9:04 am)
"zslick, did you mean you had heard this noise while driving in cabin, or you hear it outside of car when it is idling ?"
I heard this noise when the car was idling when I was inside or out of the cabin. It sounded somewhat like a valve tap. It was definitely not pinging.
Jan 11, 2004 (10:12 am)
In my car ('02 Sable with Duratec), there is some slight tapping at idle, but you can hear it only being outside of car. I thought it to be the normal operation for the engine with chain. I have 100,000 miles warranty anyway, but still will ask dealer next oil change is it normal or not.
Thank you for your warning, btw I didn't find bulletin referring to this problem in Endmuds.