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#256 of 3389 Ward's 10 Best Engines in the world
Jul 11, 2000 (5:45 pm)
I haven't seen neither Taurus engine (Duratec or Vulcan) on the annual 10 best engine contest. From Ford I have seen the V-8's and I believe the 2.5L V-6 from the Contour SVT. GM's 3800 Series II V-6 was featured until 1997 and now the 3.5L DOHC "Shortstar" has taken the honors since then 9Both excellent engines). I have yet to see an engine from DChrysler or Honda (Exception the S2000 engine made it to the list this year).
#257 of 3389 : Ward's 10 Best Engines in the world
Jul 12, 2000 (3:02 am)
Ford had the most engines of any manufacturer on this years Ward's 10 best engine list.
The Duratec has won in previous years.
I think the 5.4L Ford V-8 they put in the F-Series and Expedition/Excursion may have set a record for the number of repeat wins this year.
Every winner on the list had one thing in common, overhead cams. Not a push rod anywhere in sight.
#258 of 3389 SVT 2.5L Duratec 1998-1999...
Jul 12, 2000 (12:10 pm)
... Wards Auto 10 Best Engine winner. Here is the link for the 1999 list, but it mentions a return engagement for the 2.5L Duratec.
The 2.5L is just the 3.0L with a smaller bore. In fact a Ford Performance Tuner has taken the 2.5L heads and mated them to a 3.0L block added a supercharger and is producing about 290HP
Now if I can get that into my Contour
#259 of 3389 Taurus #1 seller.
Jul 12, 2000 (6:13 pm)
The Taurus is the number one seller because it is priced where the average family can afford it, not because it is a better car than the Camry and
Accord. I paid just under 22,000 for my Intrigue
last year. I could have bought a Accord for 24,000. I didn't feel that the Intrigue was better than the Accord just that I was more comfortable paying 2,000 less. A Taurus can be had for less than 20,000 nicely optioned, this is why people are buying them.
I have seen your posts flaming Gm cars, most noticeably the Impala, and you guys need to get over yourselves.
My Intrigue has more room, better acceleration, and better gas mileage than the Taurus, is it a
nicer driving car, yes, has it been in the shop more than your Taurus', oh yeah. But, even with its problems it has been the best driving sedan that I have been in for the money. Its passing acceleration is truly amazing.
It seems to me that you need to realize that the Taurus is what it is, a value oriented family sedan nothing more and nothing less.
Jul 12, 2000 (10:38 pm)
AND THE INTRIGUE IS A WORLD BEATER?
the intrigue 3.5 and tranny is a a bit superior engine to the 3.0 duratec and ford tranny, i may agree to that.
But compare the interiors of the two cars. The Taurus beats it hands down. The plastics and switches and seats are much nicer in the Taurus. And the Taurus has more space on the inside.
Looks wise on the exterior its tie. Myself, I prefer the Taurus by a whisker.
Pricing wise, GM still hasn't figured out that a car like the Intrigue doesn't deserve a 28k sticker price (loaded). You can buy a fully loaded Taurus for barely around 23k, or a basic Taurus around 16k. High end or low end, the Taurus is superior priced for a car that is essentially equal or better than comparable GM products.
Bottom line- GM is overpriced in a lot of cases compared to competition, they need to upgrade their motors in a lot of their models, and also they could stand to improve the styling, drving dynamics and interiors quality. Ford at least makes a showing in these areas. You can cite the intrigue, but remember the Intrigue is most likely GM's best sedan. The Impala certainly doesn't stack up like the Intrigue.
#261 of 3389 Really?
Jul 12, 2000 (11:10 pm)
But the Impala stacks better against the Taurus...
(Go ahead flame me!)
#262 of 3389 flame me to !
Jul 13, 2000 (2:33 am)
ive got a impala sales guide that only the dealer has , and it compares the impala to the taurus, in many ways , and you guessed it the impala came out on top , and a good thing about the comparison was it showed pictures of each way it was compared that way there is no excuses.
#264 of 3389 Fordman
Jul 13, 2000 (1:37 pm)
The Edmunds' Comparo more IMPARTIAL? Don't think so buddy!. Edmunds' reports are very biased filled with subjective opinions and full of childish personal remarks. Read carefully between the lines....."The Oldsmobile Intrigue is a dangerous car to drive without the PCS (Automatic satibility system)...WHAT??????
If this is JOURNALISM, I am SUPERMAN!
#265 of 3389 Impala = Warmed over LUMINA
Jul 13, 2000 (1:56 pm)
interesting info from Edmunds ....The Chevy Impala is back again, this time as a front-wheel-drive, V6-powered spin-off of the Lumina chassis.
I was wondering where the Lumina went. What ever happened to the rear wheel drive V-8 powered Impala? The new Impala is just a warmed over Lumina with a name change.