Last post on Jan 21, 2011 at 10:46 AM
You are in the Ford Taurus/Mercury Sable
What is this discussion about?
Ford Taurus, Mercury Sable, Sedan
Oct 26, 2003 (3:36 pm)
Throughout the 7 years that I had my 91 Toyota Camry I went twice to Ford dealers to trade to a Taurus wagon, preferably. I needed something roomy and safe for my growing children.
First time 1993 I didn't get the Taurus wagon basically because my wife right there and then,in front of the salesman and manager, mentioned that after seeing the wagon she really wanted a minivan. Taurus wagon would've been sufficient. In 1996 we went again to a Ford dealership but I didn't like the car's sloping hood. Did not buy it.
What's the point here? Even though I owned a Camry I still wanted the perceived virtues of a Ford Taurus, which my Camry didn't possess then. My car felt like an econobox. However for 7 + years never visit the shop for repairs.
Taurus was built strong, safe and roomy. Camry was made reliable, economical and good looking. If Ford would've put great effort into putting dependability in the Taurus people would've flocked to get it.
Oct 26, 2003 (6:19 pm)
if i'm not mistaken, the civic line is still the top seller in the small car market. and there is a civic hatchback (it doesn't sell very well though).
you're not going to be able determine a car's overall reliability by reading a forum board.
i see you still continue to insist that consumers are being "duped" into spending more money for their camcords. your entitled to your opinion and i won't take it personally. but i think ford would love to have the demographics that honda has with its accord.
thanks for your (along with danielj6, nvbanker and fdthird) input.
#2512 of 3389 Buying an '03 Taurus
Oct 29, 2003 (12:46 pm)
I'm not sure if this is the right place to post this question, but here I go:
I'm considering buying a brand-new '03 Taurus SES Deluxe sedan, but I'm wondering how much below invoice I should go for my initial offer.
I've always understood that Ford gives the dealer an additional 3% of MSRP (in addition to the normal holdback) on "leftover" models. In this case, that would be about $679. (MSRP is 22645 + 660 destination charge = $23310).
Any suggestions on where I should start (ballpark estimate)? The dealer in question has about 25 '03s on his lot and twice that number of '04s.
Oct 29, 2003 (1:01 pm)
Lets put it this way.......I would buy a Taurus with square wheels before I would even think about buying a Honda or Toyota.....however my wife does own a Honda civic that has bee very reliable.....but no more reliable than my Taurus
Oct 29, 2003 (5:06 pm)
For the first 100,000 miles, it's about personal preference in what you like and feel comfortable.
For the next 100,000 miles, I bet on the Civic to keep you going more cheaply, generally, and from experience.
However, my Explorer has 115,000 miles on it, just needed it's first major repair - a water pump and a front end bushing. That's not bad.
Oct 29, 2003 (6:26 pm)
sometimes dealers even have more discounts available..
start at invoice - 3% and work up from there. Find out ahead of time ALL incentives and subtract those from the adjusted invoice price.
if the deal is close, no need to haggle over a couple hundred bucks.
Oct 29, 2003 (6:27 pm)
One could argue that a water pump at 115k is maintenance. Honda recommends replacing the water pump when a timing belt is changed. Their interval for a timing belt used to be 90k. The reasoning was the mechanic was already there. Bet a bunch of them also failed sometime right after the belt was changed.Thus the recommendation to change when doing the belt.
So I would not consider a water pump a major repair.My opinion is it is a wear item like plugs, pcv,thermostat, antifreeze, tranny fluid etc.I'm not saying you replace the pump if nothing is wrong; but it shouldn't have been a expensive job.
Oct 29, 2003 (6:34 pm)
it wasn't a big deal. And I'm not complaining in the least. It's been a great truck
Oct 29, 2003 (6:37 pm)
Do yourself a favor and keep your $$ in your pocket;buy used Taurus. 1-2 year old Taurus is the best value you can get. At around 12-14K, you can find one year old SES 22K miles on it.
Oct 30, 2003 (3:13 pm)
try to find one with under 10k miles on it.