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#2382 of 3389 Extended Warrantees?
Aug 26, 2003 (5:14 pm)
Hi to the Message Board,
I just bought a 2002 Ford Taurus SES with 20K. So far, I'm enjoying it a lot, and it's quite new compared to my previous ride. I used this message board extensively in deciding to buy this car instead of a Saturn L200. So thank you all for being so helpful.
My question involves the worthwhileness of extended warrantees, purchased through Ford. I can purchase one until my factory warrantee runs out, and I've been considering it. Has anyone seen one pay for itself? Is there a specific one (basic, premium, etc.) that anyone recommends?
I know Taurii tend to have trouble with transmissions, cams, and electronic components in particular. Beyond that, my only experience is the '89 Taurus GL that I grew up with-- it was a great and reliable car until it hit 100K. Has anybody with a second generation Taurus hit the higher mileage yet? And how's the car doing? I'd like to see this car last me well past 100K.
#2383 of 3389 Warranty
Aug 26, 2003 (7:00 pm)
The warranty "could" pay for itself. There are people who have had major things like a transmission replacement paid for by the warranty.
It "usually" will not because you could pay for a large amount of small repairs yourself for less than the cost of of the warranty.
Don't forget that you still will have no warranty past 100K miles even if you pay for an extended warranty. You would be better off getting rid of the car before the mileage gets near 100K. The resale value also drops more after 100K miles because many people avoid cars with over 100K miles.
#2384 of 3389 I can see for miles and miles.....
Aug 27, 2003 (2:23 am)
DanielJ, I hope I didn,t put the whammy on you or me with my earlier post about repairs. I'm having the exact same problem with the 00 Sable.
The drivers side "maintinence free" ball joint needs to be replaced.
I had my power steering replaced and the main drive belt, but the problem persisted. The ball joints don't have grease fittings anymore so when the joint starts to fail that's the noise it makes.
The cost to repair for me in NH is about $175.00.
Aug 28, 2003 (6:03 am)
I have a question regarding 03 Taurus. ( I hope this is the correct place to post the inquiry, I just got blasted in the Intrepid forum for suggesting that Chrysler is the master of decontenting, some kids think their toys are always superior.)
Operation range for remote door locks, problem being--when using the remote starter I first have to unlock the doors-to disable the alarm. I find the range for the remote starter to be much greater than the range for the door locks. Any comments?
Aug 28, 2003 (7:06 am)
If it's a Taurus/Sable question of any sort, hey, why not post here!
The factory remote range is pretty decent. I just checked what it says in the owner's manual--typical range is up to 10 meters away, which is 33 feet. In practice, my '98's shoots a lot farther than that. I've been more than 50 feet away, and as long as the car is at my height or below me, it unlocks fine. When you're downhill from the car, it won't work as well. I think the antenna's just below the dash top in the middle, so the mass of the car blocks the signal when you're downhill from it.
Are you near cellular phone towers or any other kind of transmitter (police department, TV/radio station)? That can desensitize the receiver in the car and cut the range down to 'I need to stand at the car door' before it works. Might be that the starter receiver is either in a different frequency range or is less sensitive to the signals you're near, if that's the case.
Range can also be affected by what the car is parked around. If it's surrounded by cars or tightly parked near a building, that will affect range too.
How new is the remote battery? That can make a difference. Then again, I have not changed mine in 3 years (dunno if they were new or not when I bought the car) and the range has not changed.
I think the '03s (based on dealer loaners) use the same remote as my car, so the comments should apply.
If you can fire the Ford remote from 10 meters or so, then the thing's likely working right, even if the range is not as far as you'd like. Sorry I can't help more than that.
Aug 28, 2003 (9:36 am)
I didn't even realize remote starter is a factory option on Taurus. Is this a recent addition to the available options?
My remote unlock seems to work from at least 50 feet or so, and I have yet to replace the batteries from when the car was new-at three years now.
As far as decontenting goes, from 2000-2003 I haven't detected much decontenting on the various Taurus models, just a little reworking of the option packages, but with the larger rebates available now, I think you can get more for bang for buck on a Taurus than you could 3 years ago, despite some increases in MSRP.
Aug 28, 2003 (10:07 am)
Thanks for the informative and polite response. I am probably expecting too much from the remote, the range required is approx 25m and directed toward the side of the car. I will try parking at an angle and direct the remote toward the front and test the result. When I picked the car up I told the salesman I might have a problem with the range and offered an extra key apparently the alarm won't sound when the motor is started with the door locked as long as there is a key in the ignition. Although we have no problems with auto theft in this area I do not want to take that route. I am going to change the battery in the remote, perhaps Radio Shack has one of higher quality.
Badgerfan: The remote start was a dealer installed option and the antenna is at the top of the windshield which probably makes a difference. I am new with Ford and the Taurus I have has the "standard" equipment like ABS side air bags, moonroof etc. Before I purchased I did check the Intrepid and everything there appears to be an option or not available. It would be simplier for those people to sell you the window sticker as standard and then list the car as an option.
Aug 28, 2003 (1:29 pm)
Well, looks like it's the other tie rod. The cost is $180.00. He also says the brakes are "paper thin".
I've got 55,000 miles on this car and this is the second set, Does anyone know if this seems normal mileage for brake wear?.
Aug 29, 2003 (6:17 am)
Brake wear seems to be highly variable depending on your driving style and perhaps the terrain where you live and drive as well. I usually don't begin to think about the first brake pad/shoe replacements until 50K or so. I am not particularly gentle on stops, but not the worst either. My current Taurus is at 28K and I haven't bothered to have the brakes checked. Are you sure your mechanic is not inventing brake problems-does he have a big boat payment coming up?
Aug 29, 2003 (11:05 am)
Putting aside the merits of the USA Today article and the estimation of operating expenses, and they do look flaky to me at $3K-5K for 3 years, I would argue that depreciation is important. Does not matter if you keep you car for 30 years, it is an asset that you own and part of your net worth. Whether you are filing for bankruptcy or not, if your net worth is lower because of a faster depreciation, that should be taken into account. I don't know if it is part of the cost of ownership but it is relevant regardless of your trading strategy.