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Ford Taurus, Mercury Sable, Sedan
Jul 07, 2000 (6:26 am)
I have read through all the posts here and thought I would jump in. I bought my 2000 Taurus SE on Memorial Day and already have about 3500 miles on it. I am really enjoying the car and have no major complaints. In my search, I looked at the Impala, Malibu, Focus, and Protege in addition to the Taurus. I test drove all but the Impala - I am wary of first year cars and figured it would be impossible to get a good deal on a new model. I did have an "emotional attraction" to the car as I learned to drive on a '59 Impala. The Focus and Protege were too small for a family of five. I liked the malibu pretty well. Why did I buy the Taurus? I was able to get a good trade in for my 1998 F-150 Supercab from the Ford dealer and a great price on the Taurus as well. While the price on the Malibu was reasonable, the Chevy dealer was insulting in their offer for my F-150 and refused to budge. In retrospect, I am glad I got the Taurus - a slightly larger, better equipped and more stylish car than the base Malibu I was looking at. I believe performance is better as well. As far as the styling of these cars, the Taurus, much like the F-150, grows on you and looks better and better with time. The Impala is a good looking car, but the attraction seems to fade with time. Let me adress a few things mentioned on the forum:
1) price: I felt my skin crawl when someone said the paid MSRP for a Taurus! You should never pay anywhere near MSRP for a car - you should strive to pay something really close to dealer cost, not retail. My personal rule is I never pay more than MSRP - $3000. As with most cars, the best deals are found in middle of the line option packages. I originally looked at a Taurus LX for $15,900; I decided I couldn't live without a cassette player and I didn't really like the console or hubcaps on the LX, so I offered $450 more for an SE that included a six passenger set up with a power drivers seat in addition to the standard SE options. So I bought the SE for $16350, roughly $1000 less than dealer cost, thanks to a rebate. I'm sure the dealer had holdbacks as well because I know he didn't lose any money. I also got a very good price for my trade in.
2) Engine: I'm sure the Duratec is a pleasure to drive(but not worth the extra dough considering you have to buy a higher priced model) , but I don't have any complaints about the Vulcan - it's no muscle car, but the mid level acceleration is great and I have caught myself passing cars on the interstate at 95 mph. I have the FFV version of the Vulcan because it was a no cost option. I initially had reservations about performance but research showed no difference in performance between the two. Someone in another post said performance would be better running ethanol, but I believe it is the opposite - degraded performance w/ ethanol. I don't really have any intentions of runing ethanol in it. The automatic transmission is great - I've never been a fan of automatics, but the 98 F-150 and this car changed my mind. Automatics have improved by leaps and bounds over the past ten years.
3) CD Changer: someone asked about after-market cd changers compatible with the cd-ready am/fm/cassette - try crutchfield www.crutchfield.com . I am almost certain they have one for around $250. The dealer will charge you about $600 to install one.
Jul 08, 2000 (2:24 am)
I have to admit its been a lot of fun watching the Impala drivers go thru such gymnatics to try to justify their purchases on a Taurus Board no less. Meanwhile, the 2000 Taurus sales have been going thru the roof, even surpassing the Accord and closing in on the Camry.
#235 of 3389 Traction
Jul 08, 2000 (2:29 am)
Well, the exact opposite could also be true, don't you think?
Jul 08, 2000 (4:15 am)
I have a couple of questions for those who own a 2000 Taurus:
1) When filling up with gas, I have a hard time getting the tank full - if I follow the owners manual advice and quit after the pump "clicks off" 3 times, I'm about an 1/8 of a tank shy of full. Is anyone else having this problem?
2) I normally do my own oil changes. Has anyone done their own oil change on a 2000 Taurus yet? I'm curious as to how easy it was to get the filter out of the tight spot that it is in (and if you were able to do it w/o third degree burns)!
#237 of 3389 owner of 2000 Taurus & 1994 Impala
Jul 08, 2000 (4:39 am)
As an owner of Ford and Chevy products, all I can say is both cars are wonderful in their own way.
The Impala has alot more room and a very smooth ride. It handles better than any car that I have owned or driven. The Impala is very sleek and impressive looking. As for speed, try to beat it.
My new Taurus is 24v with all the extras. I love the new look. It handles well and is also very roomy.
As for repairs, thew Impala parts are alot more expensive and to find a service department that knows what they are doing, for get it.
On the other hand, my ford service department is wonderful. They are pleasant, kind, and never question my judgement when I tell them something is wrong with my car. As for the cost of parts, I don't have any idea of this car yet.
Jul 08, 2000 (4:52 pm)
This may not be the right board for this question, but was hoping someone could give me advice. I purchased a Taurus from the dealer a couple of months back, and just happened to be looking at the sticker again. The sticker shows that 5-spk aluminum wheels should have been standard equipment on the SE that I got. Well, in the optional equipment part, it shows that locking wheelcovers were optional (at No Charge). These are plastic covers over steel rims. My question is, is it a legitimate gripe to get the dealer to swap me back my aluminum wheels, which I happen to prefer? Or since I drove it off the lot, keep what I got? Replies appreciated.
#239 of 3389 TAURUS QUALITY
Jul 08, 2000 (5:41 pm)
I'm so tired of hearing all those complaints about Ford quality vs. praises for Japanese cars. I personally own many Ford models over the years as well as Honda Accords, Toyota Camry, & Nissan Altima. First of all, none of these Japanes cars are more reliable, and they cost more to repair and maintain. Worse still, the Japanese dealers are all blatant cheaters who, inspite of recent improvement in attitudes. always feel that customers are suckers. I once had a Nissan dealer misrepresenting a problem covered by the warranty as a $600 repair that I had to pay. After getting nowhere with the service manager, I went to see the sales manager and asked him to tell me what the warranty was and then asked the service manager to talk to him. What a hassle!!!
My 1996 Taurus has 80K miles on it, and the total repair cost is a big round zero. I even skimmed on maintenance and so far I only have one 30K maintence done. Japanese cars all cost well over a thousand or two at comparable mileage. Even comparing with the most troublesome Ford vehicle I own in the past, it is still much much cheaper to repair and maintain than a Japanese car.
So, why do I keep on buying Japanese cars still? The reason is simple - unfounded bias of my wife and my kids (as well as many people I know personally), who keep on insisting that Japanese cars are better, more reliable, and all those craps inspite of clear evidence to the contrary.
Don't get me wrong. Japanese cars are well made and are just as reliable as a Taurus. You simply have to pay more (abeit for a smaller, less powerful car vs, Taurus), more to maintain, and more money to repair. That's all. Somehow, everybody that I know almost always try to hide problems with their Japanese cars or try to rationalize them.
Yes, there are well publicized Taurus engine problems on earlier model, but the offer (extended warranty, thousands of dollars of rebates, buy-back of vehicles) from Ford is so generous that I wish I own one of those "problem" cars. Whatever problems I have or will have on Japanese cars, you bet that I will have to pay for them myself - sometimes even when they are still under warranty and I'm not knowledgeable enough to know the truth.
#240 of 3389 Family Sedans Comparison
Jul 08, 2000 (5:54 pm)
Edmunds review on family sedans is available online under '2000 Family Car Comparison'.
The winners were Passat, Accord and Taurus, each separated by a faction of 1%. They tested a total of 9 cars. There was a wide range of scores with the worst rated car in the group having a score of 54 compared to 72 for the Taurus/Accord/Passat.
#241 of 3389 reply to sticker problem
Jul 08, 2000 (6:08 pm)
Did you get the six way power drivers seat by any chance? If so, that was in place of the five spoke aluminum wheels (there is some fine print in the brochure that states this). The SE comes with one or the other; for both, you have to pay extra. For example, my SE had the five spokes and the power drivers seat was an added option.
#242 of 3389 Re Sticker Problem
Jul 08, 2000 (11:00 pm)
Jnorris, while the 5-spoke painted aluminum wheels are standard on the SE, it's true the bolt-on wheel covers are available as a no-cost option on that model. If those wheel covers are listed on the options side of your sticker, then that's the way the car was ordered and assembled at the plant. Your dealer didn't switch the wheels before you purchased the car.