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Ford Taurus, Mercury Sable, Sedan
#1742 of 3389 Taurus MSRP on Honda Web site
Sep 26, 2002 (10:15 am)
Why is Honda misrepresenting the MSRP on Taurus? When you use Honda's Web site feature to compare a 2003 Ford Taurus SES Deluxe with 2003 Honda LX V-6 Sedan, they list MSRP for the Taurus of $22,120 and $650 shipping charges which is ok so far, but they end up with the total MSRP of $23,520 rather than $22120+650=$22770. Where did this extra $750 come from? My guess, they lied!
When you list the 2003 Honda Accord LX V-6 Sedan, the MSRP for that car with shipping is listed at $23,460, conveniently for them slightly less than the faulty MSRP they list for Taurus.
They also conveniently didn't list that the Taurus has alloy wheels standard. Yes, this particular Honda model has a few features the equivalent Taurus doesn't, like rear disc brakes and a 5 speed automatic. But, I think misrepresenting the Taurus MSRP is inexcusable.
Of course, real world purchase price would make Taurus much more attractive, but Honda shouldn't start out with an erroneous MSRP.
#1743 of 3389 1703 Taurus MSRP on Honda Web site by badgerfan
Sep 26, 2002 (7:22 pm)
That may be called what is known as "deceptive advertisement" by Honda perhaps.
That's okay I'd still buy Ford
Let people deal with Honda's and Toyota's arrogance and supercilious attitudes.
I'll keep my Merc or buy another one or a Ford.
#1744 of 3389 Please Service Your Trans ...
Sep 28, 2002 (9:06 am)
We own a 1999 SE, 12V. We bought it because it was cheap. We purchased it in 2000 with 25K miles for $11,000. We have had it for slightly more than 2 yrs/20K miles and nothing major has happened, except for :
1. there seems to be some electrical problem somewhere. Sometimes when I turn the steering wheel, my wipers go on and then off on their on. This also happens sometimes when we use the turn signal.
2. Engine rattling/pinging under acceleration. This is really not a big deal for us but our other automobile (which I will not mention because I do not want to offend anyone) is just so smooth under acceleration, you can't help but notice it. I can live with it on an $11,000 car though. I wonder how the
This is my wife's car so I do not know when it actually started. I have driven it for the past 3 weeks and it happened twice. My guess is it's the multifunction switch. I'll try that before going to the dealer, I know they'll want "an arm and a leg", just for the switch.
Here is one thing I discovered last weekend: PLEASE SERVICE YOU TRANSNISSION!! if you don't want problems. I have 45K on mine (I know, 15K overdue), and decided to change my own ATF just to see if this is one of those rip-offs by the dealer/Ford. Here' what I found out:
1. Fluid very dirty.
2. So many metal pieces on the the magnet.
3. Oil pan bottom dirty.
4. Filter, I don't know, I didn't look, it had to be dirty as well.
Here's how much it cost me, I was doing it for the first time:
1. Time 2hrs
2. Haynes manual $15.00 (Autozone)
3. Oil $16.50 (8 qts Ford ATF, got scared to add synthetic after seeing all the little metal pieces)
4. Filter ($20 NAPA - Ford wanted $37).
** Ford, a drain plug to allow us to empty the pan before removing it would make the job a lot cleaner.
#1745 of 3389 Fluid change
Sep 29, 2002 (6:42 pm)
Had mine done at about 31k miles at the dealer. Cost something like $70 or $80 dollars.
Next repair is a brake job. Pads and rotors turned. Anyone have this done lately? How much $$$?
Sep 30, 2002 (2:07 pm)
The pinging could be that the ECM (engine computer) needs to be reset/reprogrammed.
I negotiated a brake job at Merlin's for $220. Front pads and rotors. Sometimes you can haggle for repairs, too
#1747 of 3389 Pondius I courteously disagree
Oct 01, 2002 (9:44 am)
Only because IMO your tranny is not 15K overdue, but 30K overdue. I've owned mostly Chrysler and Ford vehicles over the years. Both are notorious for fussy transmissions. If maintained meticulously they work forever. Don't maintain = overhaul.
After replacing one transmission I always service automatics every 15K by doing what you did. Draining and replacing the fluid and filter. Never had a serious problem since. I've talked my Dad into getting that service done at least annually on his 95 Taurus.
Drive it for about 5000 miles and then see if you still see dark fluid, or smell a slight burnt smell. Just draining out the fluid takes about half of it away. A second time will remove 75% of the old fluid.
My Son's Mazda with a Ford Transmission was sticking when it needed to shift between 1st and 2nd. A drain and fill, and adding Lubegard took care of the problem within a few days. However, when he took it in again for its annual service this summer the fluid still smelled burnt, so it was replaced again. With the second drain and fill it looks and smells just about as good as new. Certainly better than when he bought it.
It's funny, given the cost of a replacement, how the transmission is so seriously neglected.
PS. Check out www.lubegard.com It helps reduce acids and heat that harm transmissions. Helped stop further damage on at least 4 friends vehicles. They will send the manufacturers recommendations and TSBs if you want.
#1749 of 3389 96 Taurus Stereo
Oct 01, 2002 (2:00 pm)
My dad is looking at a 96 LX with Leather interior; according to a New Car Test Drive review, a CD changer wasn't even an option for 96 Tauruses, but in pictures of an LX interior from Edmunds, there is a button for "CD" and "tune 1-6 disc" on the faceplate.
I was wondering if anyone has a 96 taurus with the cd changer or was it not available for 96. Or if not does anyone know of a way to retrofit a "normal" CD player in the pod ( I know there is an aftermarket accessory to do this for escorts with the pod). Thanks
#1751 of 3389 re: 96 Taurus Stereo by lmp180psu
Oct 01, 2002 (6:02 pm)
I have a 96 Sable. There was an option for a console mounted CD changer. Foolishly, I didn't get one as the dealer wanted $600. I added an aftermarket, FM modulated CD changer in the trunk. It is adequate, but that's all. As it is now the wifes car (and she doesn't care), it is fine. Try www.radiosandmore.com or www.crutchfield.com for add-on CD changers. They should be able to set you up.
The Sable and Taurus are virtually the same car. The Sable is decked out a little better, but mechanically they are the same. It basically comes down to styling. Which do you like better?