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Ford Taurus, Mercury Sable, Sedan
#1170 of 3389 Taurus Resale Value
Sep 01, 2001 (11:54 am)
is absolutely atrocious. This is due to the huge number of Taurus ex-rental cars being dumped on the market every year by Hertz. The resale value is further eroded by Ford's reliability reputation and a style that is now out of date. I recently bought a new car, a Subaru WRX, and was interested in selling my 1996 Taurus GL. The Ford dealer offered me $4200 (69K miles). If I sold it myself I could probably get all of $7500. DO NOT BUY FORD UNLESS YOU ARE PLANNING TO DRIVE IT UNTIL THE WHEELS FALL OFF! My daughter will be driving in two years so I will now be keeping it for her.
Sep 03, 2001 (4:59 am)
My wheels are ready to fall off! I need a third set of rotors right now. The second set warped again after being cut,with only 11,000 miles on them. I need an equity loan to keep this car running with only 49,000 miles!!
#1172 of 3389 1997 4 wheel Disc brakes Squeak
Sep 03, 2001 (6:34 am)
I have 1997 Taurus and have had the brakes redone.
Front and rear. The Brakes now squeak at very low speed.
This is annoying. I had the rotors turned when the bakes where done. Seems to be coming from the rear discs. Any suggestions as to how to fix this?
#1173 of 3389 wrx_al - re: warped rotors
Sep 03, 2001 (7:37 am)
The key to keeping Ford rotors going without warping is to never, never allow the lug nuts to be tightened by an air gun. They should always be done by hand tools, preferably a torque wrench. I have put about 150,000 miles on an assortment of Tauri (92, 93, 98, 00) and a Sable (95) without ever having to replace a rotor because I have followed this simple rule. When you do get the third set installed, insist that the lug nuts be tightened only with a torque wrench. Good luck!
#1174 of 3389 1997 4 wheel Disc brakes Squeak
Sep 03, 2001 (10:04 am)
Does this mean I need new rotors or can they turn the ones I have?
The noise is only coming from the rear discs.
I have never had a car with 4 wheel discs is this a common problem? Other than this the car is great.
Sep 03, 2001 (12:37 pm)
I'm not a great mechanic, but brake squeak is usually NOT caused by rotors.
The squeek/squeal usually comes from the pads. Ususally from the back of the pad vibrating aganist the mountings at slow speed.
There is adhesive that cane be applied to usually or sometimes stop this. It will probably cost about in labor what a brake job (without turning the rotors) would cost because the pads have to be pulled, adhesive put on the backing, and replaced.
On some brakes, there are also anti-rattle or anti-squeek clips on the pads. These might not have been reinstalled on your last brake job and are causing the noise.
A thought - if it isn't much of a noise ignore it.
I once put 'full metallic' drums brake linings on a 1972 Duster. The last 30 feet coming to a stop, these things just screamed. People on the sidewalk would look at the car, sometimes appearing to be about to cover their ears. I just drove it. The brakes were great!
Sep 03, 2001 (7:08 pm)
ok.....so i have this squeak...yes from the rear discs that has been bugging me greatly the last couple months.
And also, after getting my tires rotated by the local station (who i used to trust because they said they tightened the lugs by hand and even wanted me to come back after a couple hundred miles and have them retightened) the wobble and vibration in my steering wheel of my 99 SHO is almost unbearable where as before it was almost hardly a trace. DO YOU THINK THESE PUNKS USED AN AIR GUN ON MY LUG NUTS?????
Looks like I'll be needing a brake job to get rid of that squeak and wobbling front and only 27k miles. This sucks. My brother in law didnt b put brakes on his 97 SHO until 80k and only had his rotors turned once before that.
Sep 04, 2001 (7:34 pm)
My sympathies on your squeeks and impending brake job. I should also mention that I am a firm believer in NOT rotating tires. There are two reasons that I have for this.
Number one is that there is less of a chance that someone will not tighten the lug nuts with hand tools if the tires are not taken off as often.
Number two is that I feel that tires take a "set" on the corner that they are installed on (especially radials). If the tires were properly mounted and balanced when new, then they do best for their entire tread life on the same corner of the car. I used to rotate tires (tried both same-side rotation and cross-side rotation, but invariably this introduced some other problem - vibration, sidewall "wrinkles", etc.). So now, I just leave well enough alone. With front wheel drive, I end up replacing the front tires when they wear out while the rears still have plenty of tread on them. I buy the same tires again as replacements for the front and then replace all 4 tires when the fronts wear out again. More expensive? Yes, in terms of tire cost it is. But in terms of satisfaction with the ride and handling of my car as well as fewer expenses related to solving tire-related problems, perhaps not. I have never been dissatisfied because of some spurious vibration or mysterious "pulling", so the cost is worth it to me. I get about 2 years out of each set of front tires and 4 years out of the rears. At $100 apiece, that's $600 over 4 years, or about 27 cents a day for driving satisfaction. I'm worth it!
Two words of caution if you follow this approach:
1 - I usually loosen and retighten all of the lug nuts once or twice a year so that they don't "freeze up" on the lugs.
2 - When I do have the car serviced and I know the wheels will be coming off, I mark the tires with chalk so I know where they came from (RF, RR, LF, LR) in case they put them back in the wrong place (if they do, I make them fix it). Then, when I get the car home, I loosen all of the lug nuts and retighten them with a torque wrench just to be sure (oh, and wash off the chalk too!). A few extra minutes of my time, but it pays dividends in peace of mind.
Once again: no warped rotors and no tire related vibrations, shimmies or pulls. What's that worth?
Sep 04, 2001 (8:48 pm)
Hey Minnesota Art, that was the Excelsior Amoco that did my last rotation.
Yes I am MN too.
Sep 05, 2001 (6:01 pm)
I'm in Apple Valley. I'll remember to avoid the Excelsior Amoco!