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#884 of 1758 Still happy with 2000 ES by 71charger Mar 06, 2002 (6:26 am)
I just went over 28,000 miles on my 2000 ES. I've had it for 25 months. I've had two small problems. The door jamb switches that turn the dome light off both went bad. I think my daughter closed the driver's door hard on something killing that one but the passenger side was just a defective switch. The dealer could not have been nicer and they changed my oil and filter for 20 bucks while it was in. Every company makes lemons. The last I saw all the major manufacturers were in a virtual dead heat as far as initial problems reported. I think they've had to push it out and report on problems per thousands of cars now instead of hundreds back in the eighties. I think the Neon, in it's current form, is a stylish, sporty, and high quality small car. To give Chrysler and Ford credit at least you know when you're looking at a Neon or a Focus. See the competitors from a distance and most people don't know if they're looking at a Honda or a Toyota or a Nissan or a Mazda.
#885 of 1758 Still happy with 2000 ES by 71charger by protegextwo Mar 08, 2002 (2:16 am)
"To give Chrysler and Ford credit at least you know when you're looking at a Neon or a Focus. See the competitors from a distance and most people don't know if they're looking at a Honda or a Toyota or a Nissan or a Mazda." by 71charger   I can always tell the difference between small Japanese Sedans and Domestic Sedans! The Ford Foci and Dodge Neons are hooked up to tow trucks and the Japanese sedans are zooming down the road.
#886 of 1758 Larry... by vocus Mar 08, 2002 (6:53 am)
That's not always true. I mean there are good and bad cars of all brands built out there. Some are worse than others, but buying a new car is part of a gamble. I would say the Neons and Foci are less reliable than the Japanese makes though. Any auto publication will tell you that much.
#887 of 1758 be serious by lisabuff Mar 08, 2002 (9:20 am)
are you kidding?? a neon is more reliable than a say a nissan or toyota??! No way! My old subaru didnt need a repair until it was 7 years old.. my neon.. I dont think it made it 30 days!! the simple fact that Chrysler is nixing the line just shows that they know they have a loser. Its really too bad though..would be nice to have an american car and the neons are cute.. but cute doesnt get you home on a snowy night! Im with Larry..
#888 of 1758 Toyota sludge by rassom1 Mar 08, 2002 (9:28 am)
If you think Neons are bad cars, just read what is being said about the sludge problem on the Toyota's.   Could be 3,000,000 affected.   Every manufacturer has its problems.
#889 of 1758 Grain of salt by 71charger Mar 09, 2002 (6:38 am)
Having never seen a 70s or 80s Japanese car that didn't disintegrate into iron oxide in less than five years but never heard anyone complain about it I don't understand the Japanese autos as demi-gods mindset. When I bought my Neon I had narrowed the field to three cars (Neon, Focus, Protege). I just couldn't live with the styling of the Focus and thought the interior of the Protege just screamed CHEAP (although it could have been the color making it seem so). I drove the Neon and loved it. Funny how BMW chose to partner with Chryler on engines for the new mini and how the same 2.0 was used in Neon and Eclipse but, of course, the Eclipse is higher quality being Japanese. Chrysler spends next to nothing on magazine advertising compared to its competitors (or so I'm told) so they get treatment in the automotive press commensurate with what they spend. No model intro on the French Riviera (ala the new Tiburon) or other such things. I think most people are sheep. The automotive press (subjective they're not) say Japanese cars are better so they must be. Have I owned Japanese, yes. Will I again, probably. But I don't automatically assume they're going to be better. Open your eyes to the possibility that the quality of small American made cars has caught up. Stop automatically paying whatever the Toyota or Honda dealer tell you you're going to pay and look around some more.   Look at GMC. They figured out that the public perceived their trucks as being better made than Chevys. Some people polled even said that GMCs used thicker sheet metal. Never mind that they are assembled on the same line by the same people. Now GMC is capitalizing on this with their "Professional Grade" campaign.   Enough ranting for now.
#890 of 1758 Sorry wrong word by 71charger Mar 09, 2002 (6:40 am)
Meant to say "objective they're not"
#891 of 1758 Ranting by lisabuff Mar 11, 2002 (9:22 am)
I agree that the neon is a cute car.. I loved it because it was cute and when it worked it was fun to drive.. but nothing in my mind will convince me that Chrysler has a clue..why? CUSTOMER SERVICE.. how do you kill a customer's interest.. bad customer service.. the simple fact that I had a transmission problem that put me in danger on the highway (literally) and Chrysler dragged their feet for almost a year and at one point I was told 'it stalls on the thruway?.. we dont see that being a problem'!! WHAT? a good customer is a dead customer??!! Sorry..say what you want.. I prefer a company that likes me alive.   Ill stop ranting now.. I've said my peace!
#892 of 1758 in Chrysler's defense by buoyant Mar 11, 2002 (12:23 pm)
I believe the last JD Power survey I saw had the Neon coming in with fewer problems than several Japanese makes - the Protege, Sentra and Civic (yes, Honda Civic).   It's unfair to judge an automaker solely on its past mistakes. Yes, the 95-99 design was kind of a junkbox as far as quality is concerned, but the newer designed is much improved. I think some peoples' quests for vengeance here are clouding their reasoning.
#893 of 1758 Junkbox? by vocus Mar 11, 2002 (12:50 pm)
I think it's funny when hearing about the 1995-99 Neons. My ex-roomate's ex-wife has a 1996 Dodge Neon Expresso with about 40K on it. The car has never given a day of problems (of course 40K in 6 years is hardly alot of driving). On the other hand, his 2000 Neon with 40K or so miles has been in the shop many, many times with different stuff all the time. Weird.

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