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#82 of 1773 Edmunds Small Car Comparison
Jun 13, 2000 (6:38 pm)
I just completed reading the small car comparison and it is full of flaws.
First, they should drive cars with similar equipment. Some cars had automatics and others had 5 speeds. Some were selected with ugraded engine options (like the Cavalier) while others had base engines.
The editors indicated that the Neon could have moved up in the rankings if it had a 4 speed automatic transmision. How far up? Next to last? Where would a 5 speed Neon be?
It would be silly for Dodge to accomodate Edmunds and the rest of the car magazines by putting an automatic transmission in the car if they still won't like it rank the car next to last.
I suspect that they gave the new Neon their lowest ranking to punish DaimlerChrysler for not equipping the car with an automatic transmission with the hopes that the manufacturer take heed and offer a 4 speed automatic in the near future.
I agree that the 3 speed automatic should keep the Neon out of the top ranking. But last? That is rediculous.
If Dodge's 2000 Neon is not substantially better than the Cavalier and Civic (both are about 5 year old designs) than Dodge should just get out of the car business.
Jun 14, 2000 (10:09 pm)
To all: if youre out theyre looking for a new car just disregard the car reviews you see in magazines and elsewhere. They are full of BUNK. As stated by others before, these reviews totally disregard factual numbers and base all on their personal fancy. There is some type of conspiracy against the new NEON's because I cant find but one review that shows any respect for the car. The one that does is www.car-truck.com in the chrysler section. They gave the NEON's a realistic rating and praised it well, which it deserves.
#84 of 1773 Conspiracy theory (importfighter)
Jun 15, 2000 (5:52 pm)
After reading the reviews on the NEON 2K and actually owning one.I've gotta agree with you.
What's really annoying is that I personally drove most of the cars competing with NEON before making a final decision, and they lacked character.
I like the JETTA, but the performace/price was too low for too much money.
The propaganda must be working, because where I live (Silver Spring.MD) I hardly see any 2K NEON's. Even rarer is a 5spd with the ABS/alloys, which is what I have.An uncommon, common car?
I had great fun with a 5 series BMW the other day from a standstill to 60MPH.The guy was red in the face at the next stoplight.Guess he could'nt shift or was a knucklehead.
Last great econo car I loved was a 1983 VW Golf GTI. Euro-spec and very fast. I think however that my new 2K Neon ES is equal is acceleration, and handling, and superior (vastly!), in creature comforts.
A lot of older NEON drivers have registered dissatisfaction with the new NEON,and that's their right. I find the new one to a much more refined,one with almost the same level (stock) as the older models.
Unfortuately,I have very little long term data (12,000 miles and up) on the reliabily of this
car.I have seen a few posts on the power steering, and Justpurple's problems, but not a great deal about the 2K problems as a whole.Remember that the 2k has been out since mid-1999, so if it is in fact as terrible as people say,why so few posts?
I regret the problems of the 95-99 models have so stained the reputation of Chrysler (although it's
deserved ..,if true). In the case of the 2K NEON ,I have to say , that it appears that Chrysler has made an attempt to right some of their wrongs.They also have moved the car into the mainstream where a certain level of luxury and refinement is expected. Yeah, I loved my old VW Golf GTI, but the 2K NEON has the performance, and handling to match it. But, as I'm now middle aged, I kinda like little things like power steering,Power windows, an A/C that works,convenience lighting, and a kick-ass stereo.
Does it follow the initial "spirit" of the Neon? No, from what I hear from 95-99 owners, but progress demands change.I don't feel that DC abandoned the key things that made the NEON great,they've just honed the rough edges.
Time will tell.
It's just annoying to see all the bad reviews,especially when you own the car and have driven the so-called "better" cars.
Jun 15, 2000 (7:24 pm)
Has anyone changed the air filter yet. Can't find it in stores yet!!
#86 of 1773 Air filter (Afey)
Jun 16, 2000 (3:36 am)
Nope, not yet. Probably will be hard to find one.
Have you tried your dealer? Surely they must have them.
#87 of 1773 NEON PRICING
Jun 19, 2000 (5:08 pm)
Does any 2000 Neon owner know what the real spread is between
DEALER INVOICE and MSRP for a 2000 Neon?
Edmunds invoice price does not include the national advertising charges and possibly one other dealer charge that I can't recall right now.
I will purchase a 2000 Neon this week, with an
MSRP of $16,000. I want to offer the salesman
$15,000 initially. Am I out of the ballpark here??? Any responses are definitely appreciated.
#88 of 1773 Well...
Jun 20, 2000 (3:09 pm)
When I was shopping for a car back in July, I didn't look at American cars because of the trouble I was having with the Cavalier I already had. I ended up with a Mazda Protege DX with automatic. After purchasing, I went and drove a 2000 Neon. When sitting and waiting for the dealer to bring out a tag for the test drive, the car stalled. On the drive (freeway at about 70 or so), the engine was very loud and wind noise was awful. I didn't like it at all.
My friend has a 2000 base Neon with stick shift and I rode in it the other night for about 2 hours combined for our trip. The seats are pretty comfortable, but the dashboard and other interior materials looked cheap (petty, but important to me if I have to look at them all the time). Also, the cup holders aren't functional (important when you drive as much as I do). The transmission also shifts hard (stick shift, so it's my friend's fault, but still..) and the engine is loud as hell. His car is noisier at idle than my car is when cruising at about 30 or so. He also paid about $1000 less for his car than I did mine. I have a CD/cassette and auto. to show for it though.
As I said, I like the Neon but they aren't all that. Other cars with more refinement, similar equipment and at lower prices can he had on the market. Also, the head gasket blowing thing from the past scared me away from the Neon. I hope they are okay in the 2000s, but we shall see.
#89 of 1773 My 2000 Neon review- JUNK!!!
Jun 21, 2000 (1:03 am)
I have a 2000 Dodge Neon ES and have had nothing but problems! It only has 6700 miles.
1st- brakes had to be fixed
2nd- tire had to be replaced
3rd- belt tensioner had to be replaced
4th- CD changer had to be replaced & they lost my CD's that were stuck in the changer!
5th- motor mounts had to be replaced- I had severe vibration
6th- passenger doors were leaking- they replaced the seals and if that doesn’t fix the problem then the doors will have to be replaced!
7th- the idle drops to approx 500 rpm and it starts vibrating- dealer states they can not find anything wrong with it (it is an automatic)
Never will buy another Chrysler product- poor service from the dealer and from headquarters in Michigan.
Lemon law in Ohio is 3 of the same thing repaired or 8 different things- you better believe I am counting. I have only had this car since 9/99!!
#90 of 1773 Dont take this the wront way Lsauka,
Jun 21, 2000 (1:36 am)
But I dont believe all the problems you are reporting are the fault of the car.
I believe some people have trouble with a rough idle, or loud brakes. I have read that the new 2000 Celica CD player will also occassionlly not work, but I simply don't believe that one car can have all the flaws you report after only 6500 miles.
I would write this weather or not you had a Ford, GM, Chrysler, Mazda, Toyota.
I used to service cars and I know for a fact that some people beat the !#$ out of their cars out of ignorance or trying to see how much abuse it will take before it fails.
Of course I have no way to know if that is your situation. If I was you I would have to assume that for every car like yours there are probably 25 relatively trouble free cars which their owners enjoy.
#91 of 1773 Neon Experiences (Isauka &Edswords)
Jun 21, 2000 (1:28 pm)
I never believe as true anything I read until I research it.
I also believe that when it comes to Religion,Politics,and Sex, that each man/woman has his own experiences and opinions that need to be tolerated and respected.
That said, I CAN believe that it's possible to have all those things go wrong with a car.If you got a car manufactured during a period of stress at an assembly line,you can bet that quality control might be terrible.
It's for that reason that I strongly believe in the merits of robotic construction. They're mindless and don't bring emotions into their work.
On the other hand, I find it difficult not to agree with Edswords that for the most part, a large percentage of car owners (whatever make) really don't have much to complain about.
I also read some of the NEON boards, and laugh to myself when I read some of posts. Some of these guys modify the hell out of their cars, and are then amazed when they are not reliable."Changed the intake and PCM of my NEON, and now it's not runnning right"! Duh.., ya think?
Whatever. Sorry to hear of your problems Isauka,document all the repairs (make sure you have each and every repair invoice) and then contact your State's small claims court.
Just hope I am one those with a car built on a day when the workers were happy.., Uhmmn.., lets see.., mine was built on a Monday during September..,YIKES!