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#774 of 1758
No bags here by majorthomecho
Aug 14, 2001 (1:28 pm)
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I did not buy my car as some sort of status symbol. If I was interested in that sort of thing, I would have done the lease on that BMW 3 series. I am proud of my car and so don't wear a bag over my head.
 
You did not offend me. I realize that the Echo's looks are very polarizing and so don't hold your comments against you.
 
I would imagine that the Neon when it first came out suffered much the same slings and arrows.
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from soup to Echos by buoyant
Aug 14, 2001 (6:29 pm)
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Gee, I must be losing my touch. I used to be able to offend people without even trying...
 
I guess I'll have to go after Vocus next time. Speaking of which, he hasn't posted here lately. My guess: the tranny in that Protege blew out again and he's walking back from a trip out to Yosemite.
 
I think he got embarrassed after seeing that last J.D. Power Quality survey - especially after what seemed like an eternity of blasting Chrysler for making unreliable cars. Yeesh, what's Mazda trying to do now anyway? They're starting to make Hyundai look good.
 
On a different note, I found it funny that Walser was trying to champion itself as the savior of Richfield when it had logged years and years of complaints from its residential neighbors because of the proximity of its used car PA system to their homes. It was very sad to see their neighbor and local landmark, Wally McCarthy's Oldsmobile, go however.
 
My dad used to take me there when I was a kid (so he could load up on free bratwurst and popcorn) and I have very fond memories. There aren't a lot of theme dealerships anymore (if you recall, the building and sales lot were designed to look like one big circus tent). Oh well, you take the good with the bad.
 
Lastly, don't you find it a bit irritating that every time you travel someplace out of the Midwest, they actually expect Minnesotans to talk with that same horrific accent the Coen brothers used for the movie Fargo? It's not like it's Norway for God's sake.
 
Little do these people know that their local broadcasters have been trained to speak with a midwestern "dialect" because it is considered the most grammatically correct (and accent free). I used to get so sick of calling into credit managers at work and hearing them say, "Gee, you're from Minnesota? You sure don't sound like it." It makes me wonder if these same people believed in re-animation after watching Night of the Living Dead. I just bet they drive Kias too.
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return of the nag by zapatista2000
Aug 18, 2001 (9:37 am)
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any idea how much it costs to replace a rear bumber on a 97 Neon? i have my dad driving cars before i get home, since i only have a couple of days, and he just looked at a 97 base with basically no options, 5 speed, in perfect condition inside and the exterior is excellent except that someone tapped and cracked the rear bumper and it's being held together with a bolt. it's got 67,000 miles and they're asking $5,500 at Burnsville Toyota. the sales guy said they could "probably" let it go for $4,800, so i'm thinking of offering 48 if they fix it themselves or $4,400 as is. any thoughts? it's that femme-ish light blue/purple color, so i'm not jumping at it. ya, sure, you betcha.
-jeremy
#777 of 1758
Who's nagging? by buoyant
Aug 18, 2001 (5:02 pm)
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I sure hope you're not talking about that pastel lavender color I've seen on a few old Neons - that really is kind of nasty.
 
If you're seriously interested in the car though, try to deal on it during the last day of the month. Since this car is obviously a trade-in (Toyota dealers don't buy Dodges at auction), and the asking price is higher than market for the Twin Cities, there is a LOT more room for negotiation.
 
"Probably able to let it go for $4800" is sales-speak for "prepare to be screwed." I'd bet my Chrysler these guys didn't pay any more than $3200 for this car on trade. In fact, if you came back with this same car a week after buying it and tried to trade it in on a new Corolla (or some other equally uncharismatic Toyota product), they would probably tell you some big story about how weak the market is for used Neons and that they couldn't give you any more than $2500 for it.
 
Personally, I try to avoid Toyota dealers like the plague as they've become so accustomed to screwing people (people who volunteer to come in and pay MSRP for Camrys and RAV4's), they don't no how NOT to jerk people around.
 
Interestingly, Burnsville Toyota is THE dealership I attempted to purchase a used Honda Accord at (granted it was 6 years ago) and they demanded nothing less than a king's ransom for it - and that for a car that was in very poor condition!
 
Also, I've had work done on cars as part of purchase agreements and haven't been happy with the work either time. The dealership's goal is to maximize the profit on the car and that, of course, means cutting corners when making repairs. Worse yet, most of them want you to pay for the car BEFORE the work is done (so there is NO incentive there at all for them to do the work to your satisfaction - you already bought it).
 
If you decide to try to deal on this car, do yourself a favor and get an estimate on that bumper repair first. Almost any shop will give you a quick, FREE estimate on how much the repair will be and I believe there is a shop that does bodywork in that auto mall just a few blocks away from Burnsville Toyota (next to Firestone, Car-X, etc.) between Burnsville Center and the new Saturn dealership along Buck Hill Road. If you still decide you want the car at that time (you might be surprised at how expensive it is just to replace the bumper cover alone), you can use their written estimate to aid in the negotiation process.
 
But personally, I wouldn't bother fixing the bumper on a $4000 car (unless it looks totally unsightly or is likely to fall off if one of the coat hangers break). If you do any rush hour driving at all, chances are someone is going to rear-end soon enough anyway. I would just wait until then so that Allstate can pick up the tab.
 
Mike's Law states: purchasing a new car OR spending a great deal of money fixing up your old car increases the likelihood that you'll be involved in an automobile accident by 300%.
#778 of 1758
My radio by gisom
Aug 21, 2001 (5:52 am)
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in my 95 highline has not been working for months. I pulled it out and everything looks fine, fuse okay. What gives?
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Buoyant by majorthomecho
Aug 21, 2001 (6:04 am)
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I am sure you made the suggestion about waiting to fix the bumper until it was hit again innocently, but what you were suggesting would be considered insurance fraud.
#780 of 1758
Major Tom by buoyant
Aug 21, 2001 (5:21 pm)
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I didn't say cause an accident. THAT is insurance fraud.
 
The odds are very much in your *favor* of getting into an accident if you do a lot of rush hour driving in a large city, however. And I'm an odds man.
 
Doing unneccessary bodywork on an older car seems financially unwise to me. From personal experience, it always seems like some moron runs into me right after I get bodywork done.
 
The last person who rear-ended me had the audacity to tell me that she "had something in her eye" - this despite the fact she had been driving at 65mph for the last 3 miles just 10 ft from my bumper! Hmmmm...go figure.
 
I believe it was the first accident I was able to predict 2 minutes ahead of time. It's like it had its own storyline.
 
So long as the asinine share the same roads as the rest of us, accidents will be unavoidable.
#781 of 1758
Bouy by majorthomecho
Aug 21, 2001 (6:50 pm)
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If the person waits to fix the existing damage until he gets into an accident and tries to get the insurance company to cover the prior damage and the new damage, that is insurance fraud.
 
Understand now?
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buoyant and majorthom by snowman
Aug 21, 2001 (7:47 pm)
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Things are not as simple as you describe in insurance business.
First of all they have professional inspectors.
Second of all prior damages will definitely have rust that leads investigators to correct path.
#783 of 1758
Snow by majorthomecho
Aug 22, 2001 (6:35 am)
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I am not saying that the inspector won't find the damage. I am saying trying to get someone to pay for prior damage upon a new accident is fraud. It is the effort and not the success that is required for fraud.

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