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Dodge Neon, Plymouth Neon, Sedan
#468 of 1773 Snowman,Vocus,Copperhead,
Oct 29, 2000 (5:07 pm)
I continue to read, with amusement,the continuing saga of Protege Vs. Neon. Even though this is the DODGE\Plymouth Neon 2 BBS.
You know VOCUS, YOU created the Protege\NEON BBS (last entry 10\10), why not focus, Vocus, (hey! I made a funny!)your "expertise" there? As usual, you patronizing remarks regarding how "I really do like the Neon" are just a mask for who you really are..., a troll with little else to do.
I mean, here's a guy/gal that does not even own a NEON, (but his/her room mate does!), he/she has alluded to us that his/her MAZDA has given them tranny and other problems, yet dominates this BBS with their "experience" with 2K NEONS.
Here's a person who weeks ago promised to leave the BBS ,if even ONE article praising the NEON could be found.When an article was found, he broke their promise, saying that he/she PERSONALLY did not like the source of the article.
Now,tell me,how can anyone believe in the honesty of this person's opinions?
Snowman, you've hit the nail on the head. You bought the NEON after comparing it, dollar for dollar,against the competition.You have also accepted the "problems" that are endemic to the NEON.I find most Japanese cars(in the NEON'S class) to be reliable, but exceedingly costly and boring. A well made toaster or microwave is my analogy in describing them.How good can a company be if FORD (EXPLORER's really are safe! hahah), own them?
As far as break-in,I gonna get flamed for this, but here's what I've heard. Gary Howell, who owns HOWELL AUTOMOTIVE (a large NEON aftermaket tuner), has told me that after rebuilding a NEON engine with new block ,pistons,rings, they do not baby the engine.They rev the engine and use it.
In addition, the techniques that are used today in the milling of engine parts, is far more precise than when engines were built (and had to be broken in carefully) decades ago.
Some things I would do, is run nothing but Mobil 1 synthetic oil(or a similar "true" synthetic) and warm up the engine in the morning.The warming up (let the car idle for 30-45sec then hold at 1800RPM for 1-2mins)helps the heat to expand not only to the block and pistons , but to the cyclinder head and gasket. This allows for uniform expansion of the engine parts.
This is tedious,and may seem strange in the summer, but in the winter, does it really seem that strange to do?
Copperhead,I sat in and drove the Stratus 2001 R/T coupe. Damn! it's nice. It had a 5-speed and all the goodies. Very fast,(7.5sec 0-60 for the auto) and handled great.Think that, or the Supercharged Cougar(if ever it's produced), will be my next "fast ride" The Stratus Coupe uses a Mitsubishi 6-cyclinder (no surprise, as DC owns a large chunk of Mitsubishi), with DC engine management. Sweet car,but the 5-speed rocks, compared to the auto.
In closing,let me invite all to take the time to go back and see all the posts from VOCUS.Then make a judgement call in regards to his\her views toward their favorite subject;
"MY EXPERT,UNBIASED,HONEST OPINION ON THE 2K NEON"
#469 of 1773 about the Stratus
Oct 29, 2000 (5:48 pm)
The 2 door gets the Mitzu motor and the 4 door gets the 2.7 from the intrepid and concord. Both are 200 HP. I wonder which is better? (faster is what I mean when I say better) I think the 4 door weighs in a couple of hundred pounds heavier, that and I don't think you can get it with the 5 speed would make the 2-door quite a bit faster. This is a bummer as I would have to get 4 doors. I guess I just keep the neon which is OK as it goes 0-60 in 6.8 which probably beats the RT 5 speed stratus anyway.
#470 of 1773 Hersbird
Oct 30, 2000 (3:53 am)
0-60 in 6.8! Guess you must have the same mods that I have in my 2K ;^) !!
Seriously, I heard 0-60 in 7.8 to 8.3 depending on the magazine for a stock 5spd. 2K NEON. I've modified mine quite a bit, and get wheel spin almost every time (in 1st gear) when the road's lightly wet unless I engage the Traction control.
I liked very much the 2 door Stratus R/T although my twelve and sixteen year old will protest the entry. But hell, they're young, so they can twist into the back seats. A really sharp looking car, and MAMA MIA! what an engine!
I'm sure the coupe with the 5spd is faster cuz' it's probably lighter.
I don't think a bone stock 2K will beat a RT 5sp. Stratus,(straight line race) but would probably leave it in the twisties.
#471 of 1773 copperhead
Oct 30, 2000 (3:37 pm)
Actually I have been following along for quite some time now and I was just trying to make the point that "vocus" would do anything to flame the Neon and the dealers or any other vehicle other than his Protege. The Protege's are OK looking cars and the people that I know who own them are satisfied, but so are most Neon owners. But he constantly blasts the Neon and I think its kind entertaining (comical as it may be). I honestly would not take the advice of a young man who is younger than most of my children, but he is entitled to his opinion.
Oct 30, 2000 (7:37 pm)
Vocus likes to fight,and flame,we all should read mark194 latest post,he is right!
You are right!
Oct 30, 2000 (8:38 pm)
I realized you got yours from Herb Gordon Dodge. how is the service department. Do they know what they are doing? any bad experiences with them?
#474 of 1773 2000 Neon LX is Excellent
Oct 30, 2000 (9:05 pm)
I have 8,500 miles on a 2000 Neon LX (5 spd, ABS) that I bought last December, and I really love this car. Its handling, ride, braking and acceleration are outstanding and the car has a very tight, solid feel. The car is also sharp-looking. I would not even consider buying a car with an automatic, even though I live in Manhattan, so I have not experienced the problems that some have written about.
My previous cars were a 1985 BMW 318i and a 1996 Infiniti G20, and I highly recommend the Neon to anyone who is sophisticated about driving and wants something in this price range. The car is MUCH underrated in many of the articles I've read, primarily because the cars that were tested had the outdated 3-speed automatic transmission.
I was very careful during the break-in period, and have been rewarded with a very reliable car. The only problem I've had was a passenger-side electric window that had not been plugged in at the factory. It was fixed in 20 minutes.
Compared with the competition, I think the Neon is the better choice. The Focus's design is hideous and unsettling. I cannot stand to look at it. The Civic's a bit boring and lacks the Neon's sporting character, and I think the Neon's ride is actually better. The Corolla is nice but not sporty enough. The Mazda Protege is perhaps the most alike, in that it's also sporty, but I like the Neon's look and handling over the Mazda's. The reliability of the Neon in 5 speed form has been great, in my experience.
I think more people should take this little gem seriously. It's a great car.
#475 of 1773 Engine light...
Oct 30, 2000 (9:32 pm)
I was in the car driving the other day, and the check engine light flickered on the dash. I think it did anyway, but not really sure. If I go through the trouble to take it to the dealer and all, is there some code the computer may put out even though the light just flashed and didn't stay on?
Also, someone needs an alignment. Front tires are balding a little on the edges. Guess I should have stuck to the rotations.
#476 of 1773 Mobay...A couple of questions, my friend?
Oct 31, 2000 (2:21 am)
Randy, what is your favorite wax/polish? How often do like to wax your car? Also, how about some tips on keeping the interior nice. Where did you learn about the mink oil trick? Thank you in advance!
Oct 31, 2000 (3:00 am)
I agree with you,itīs much better than the Focus!