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You are in the Dodge/Plymouth Neon
What is this discussion about?
Dodge Neon, Plymouth Neon, Sedan
#303 of 1773 Copperhead...
Aug 22, 2000 (7:08 pm)
It just seems like you want everyone to love the Neons and if they don't, then there is something wrong with them. You need help dude.
Anyway, the friend I speak of and I live in the same house. And I have my own car, but we switch back and forth. He drives my Protege and I drive his Neon (mostly because I take it in for service because I work near a Dodge dealership). It's not that he let me use it because I needed to. So it looks like you need to be the one shutting up if you don't know all the facts.
And my friend's ex-wife has a 1996 Neon Expresso sedan that has about 30K on it and never had a problem. I think it's just because this 2000 Neon is mostly all new and some of the bugs need to be worked out, as with any redesigned model of any car out there. So all Neons aren't junk, but if you had a car that had to keep being taken in for service when you drive it normally and take good care of it, I am VERY sure you would wanna vent too. So I don't even wanna hear it.
#304 of 1773 Importfighter, the awesome photo!!
Aug 22, 2000 (7:09 pm)
I want to guess! It's a Dodge salesman trying to find a Good review on a Neon! Yea, I got it right!
#305 of 1773 Protegextwo...
Aug 22, 2000 (7:25 pm)
That was a good one! Or, maybe it's one of these avid Dodge fans looking for a good reason to justify such a crappy purchase when they could have gotten something nicer (dare I say it?) and paid the initial money up front for a better car than paying for repairs on a cheaper one later down the road. A shame when you have to buy an extended warranty on your car not for peace of mind, but because you KNOW you will need it!
Also, I know someone who has an Intrepid. It's a 1994 with 62,000 miles on it (base model) and it runs fine. It squeaks and rattles like hell, the paint is peeling off of it, and the AC doesn't work anymore, but it still starts in the morning and that's all that matters, right??? Anyway...
To Copperhead: Find me a publication ANYWHERE that says the Neon is a reliable mode of transportation and I will leave this forum and not come back. Even Consumer Reports slams the Neon. A shame, because it's a nice package. If it was more reliable, then it would sell better.
#306 of 1773 Barich...
Aug 22, 2000 (7:53 pm)
Don't waste your keystrokes explaining to Copperhead because he just wants to believe that Neon is the best car since sliced bread on the market. They are good cars in features and all, but their mechanicals suck.
And it's pretty bad that my friend gave me full permission to trade in his 2000 Neon with only 14K and was willing to take my 1999 Protege with 24K on it. My car has more miles and been used more, and STILL is better than the brand-new Neon. There's Chrysler quality in action for ya!
#307 of 1773 2000 Neon ES Question
Aug 22, 2000 (8:27 pm)
I just bought my new 2000 Neon ES this weekend, I got everything but the ABS/traction control group on it. I have 100 trouble-free miles on it so far. I guess it would be more accurate to say, 100 great-big-grin-on-my-face miles.
Anyway, my question is about the power (front... heh) windows, it seems they don't want to work when the ignition is turned to accesories but the engine is not running. I tried rolling up my window yesterday after shutting the engine off, and discovered this. The stereo works, the (factory) sunroof will close, but the windows do nothing unless the engine is running. Is this how it's supposed to work? It seems odd if it is. Just wondering if anyone else noticed this or if something might be wrong.
#308 of 1773 Vocus,Baraici1,protegextwo
Aug 22, 2000 (8:34 pm)
Everyone has there own opinion,and will express it ad nauseum to everyone. That's life, and unfortunately the same applies here. I doubt if you three will find anything nice to say about the Neon.Before you answer Vocus..,,by "nice" I mean without the obvious veiled critisism " I really do like the Neon" but then say;
" maybe it's one of these avid Dodge fans looking for a good reason to justify such a crappy purchase when they could have gotten something nicer (dare I say it?) ". Lemme guess.., a Mazda??
Yeah, he's/she's consistent alright.., consistently ambiguous.
Hey, that's your right man/maa'm but don't try to hoodwink us with your crocodile tears.
Also, I'd like to see a publication ANYWHERE that says the 2K Protege is a reliable mode of transportation.Perhaps they will be able to "time
warp' into the future and tell us.Please do not post a prior model. We are talking here about the 2K Neon so it's only fair that we use a 2K Protege.
Unlike you Vocus,I will,however return to this forum.
How can one paint, in one broad stroke,a statement of fact about ALL Neons.Lemme guess what you're going to say.., "well.., based on past reliability reports"...., . To a point yes, but to use this wholly as a benchmark for a new generation of cars? I say "NO".
Empirical data gentlemen.., PLEASE!
I'm stupid this way but, until my 2K 5sp. ES become unreliable,I will say that it is reliable.I'm old-fashioned in this way. Perhaps someome would say " well my car has been giving me nothing but problems,but past models were reliable,so mine must be reliable too.
Yeah.., that's the ticket!
Once again, as always for this group, the thought "I own a XXX car and I love/hate it because it's reliable/unreliable, so therefore all xxx cars are
good/bad always comes through.
Lets have at it chaps..., back to you.
#309 of 1773 Mobay...
Aug 22, 2000 (8:48 pm)
Check out the April 2000 issue of Consumer Reports Magazine, and also the September issue. The April issue says the Protege is "Recommended" based on RELIABILITY. The September 2000 issue tests the Neon and says behind the times it is. It came in REAL low on the list of small cars. The Focus is better than the Protege on that list, and I will admit in some areas it is, but PROVEN reliability is not one of them.
Also, I could use the 1999 Protege (which I have) as a reliability basis, because the designs did not change from 1999 to 2000 on the Protege as they did on the Neon.
Now for someone who came to the forum for something worth talking about: Boson, our ES (mine and my friend's) has power windows and yes, they SHOULD close with the key in the accessory position. Mine do and so should all of them.
Aug 22, 2000 (9:25 pm)
Ok vocus, you asked for it:
Neon is a reliable car:
Protege is a reliable car:
Now get out!
My power windows work when my car is off (accessory is turning the key back from off right?). Hope you enjoy your Neon, I have loved my 2K thus far.
The 2000 has a new body, interior and some features, but the engine and many of the mechanical parts are brought over from 1999 with minor mods. These have had the bugs worked out through 5 years of production.
#311 of 1773 To all non-neon OWNERS
Aug 23, 2000 (12:54 am)
just what are half of you trolls doing here in a neon topic? Last time I looked this wasn't neon versus pro-toe-jay. I you have a real experience to post here (for the first time, vocus) then go for it. God help me if I see this crap continue I will be all over the mazda (or whatever) boards with stories of woe from all corners of the earth (weather true or not) why must you come here and decair war on our beloved neons. Yes I beyond all doubt think the neon is the best car made under $15000. It is way cooler then sliced bread. I supposed your cars are so boring that nobody ever even bother talking about them on their own web boards so you come here trolling to start something? I guess I'll play vocus here for awhile...
#312 of 1773 Neon is great
Aug 23, 2000 (12:53 am)
What a well balanced car my 98 is, it just does it all so well. Great room , kick butt power and handling, 50+MPG, awesome looks. Man, did I say I like the Neon?